I have had a number of truly profound experiences in my life...

I fell to the ground from the top of a 20ish foot tall pine tree and walked away unscathed...

Sharing a hallucination...

The birth of my children...

The realization that we are all human and we get to choose who we share our journey with...

and of course.... Bitcoin

Also un-researched information...though I did read "Chasing the Scream" which is a book about addiction and I thought it offered good info...

I think society is looking at many of our "systems" coming to collapse under their own weight over the coming years...to maybe decades?

I am a weirdo in that I think all drugs should be legal and should be produced in a manner that is safe and reliable. Potency is something that should be verified and provided to the users so they are able to make educated decisions about what they are using.

I also believe the "stigma" we have created over drug use is a self-fullfilling negative prophecy in which users feel cast out from society and left alone to make their own ill-informed decisions on things. This perpetuates a cycle of more use due to feeling cast out and eventually leads to entire swaths of like-minded castaways that grow and grow until they become a blight on society and due to our years of mind-fucking the rest of society - those in power simply convince the rest of society that cutting these parts of society off is ok?

Anyway I am getting a bit off topic - It does come back to the "control system" that is put in place being out of alignment with the idea that we should be doing all we can as the "human race" to perpetuate our species...which includes acknowledging that as individuals we all have a right to do what we deem is best for ourselves, as long as it isn't harming others....that last part is the tough part....what one considers harming another?

Thank you :)

At least they are texting about it :)

or clothes....most don't even think about clothing....but we don't really need it....when I look at all the other animals on the planet they simply just go about their business naked...

I sometimes think there should be laws about all the naked rabbits or ticks....but hey...I am not the clothing police :)

I would have to say money....or specifically a medium that allows humans to exchange value between other humans...preferably in a secure-immutable manner that all other humans can verify :)

I mean in a first principles kind of manner

I think a lot of the kids born in Wisconsin are born with alcohol in their veins... to soon? :)

Seriously though - Wisconsinites know how to drink

Sticks and stones will break my bones....but names will never hurt me :)

I will quit my job if my employer has not yet moved into/onto a Bitcoin standard by the time I am "financially" able to quit....

I don't know what timeframe that happens in - but I for one have been working my entire life to date with retiring in mind....no business based in/on FIAT is working in your or their stakeholders best interest - prove me wrong?

Sounds like you might be my boss....???

I mean - I guess when you are the leader and no one is following you, it might mean you just haven't done a good enough job communicating your message to the staff?

I could probably give you a bunch of reasons to not close or lay everyone off.... I think though it just comes down to that communication of the message? Sure you work hard and put in the time....but you are likely incentivized to do so...much like my boss - he is one of the owners and so if the company fails....he fails...

In my humble opinion - giving the staff a new message (and probably more share in the success) would likely go a long way to reducing the negative consequences you are experiencing?

I guess I would need to know more though....so....

It is a beautiful thing to state your feelings of commitment to one another in front of ones family and friends.... the rest of it can go bugger off.

Oh you and I both know they will do everything they can to interfere :) its the government and that is what they do....first they fight you :) then they join you.... just wait until all these "Paper-Bitcoin" instruments start imploding...we haven't seen anything yet as far as printing FIAT goes....they are going to have to print so, so, so much FIAT it will make Larry's head spin :)

I think what happens though - as FIAT becomes less and less valuable when compared to Bitcoin - the governments that are successful....are the governments that govern in a manner that is most closely aligned with Bitcoin.... As more and more of the "FIAT-users" move their value to those Bitcoin friendly areas...Governments will figure out that they have to provide their people with value in order to keep them in their jurisdiction....

Not in the circles of people I interact with on a daily basis....

As more and more small businesses/landlords/owners.... come around to the idea of Removing the FIAT value of their properties/businesses and use Bitcoin values only....hold their reserves in Bitcoin, accept payments in Bitcoin.... What the government does or doesn't do - slowly becomes less and less important and they become less and less valued and hence have less control over the rest of the market....

Not sure that "crash" is an accurate descriptor...

(Side thought) - I need to look into housing markets in economies going through periods of higher inflation....do they really crash or just kind of rotate through a devaluation/revaluation process?

I think its more likely that we have "area markets" that are highly negatively impacted when compared to the "median" and other "area markets" that are simply better positioned to retain values closer to or maybe even getting more costly?

I think this is that "balancing act".... We have to maintain the floating rate of Bitcoin value as compared to the FIAT system we are forced to interact with....at least until such time as the FIAT system becomes more unstable than the Bitcoin one....

Imagine what we are going to do when USD (and other major world currencies) see even higher inflation rates.... It will get even more difficult to value things in the old systems...and things will be getting even less expensive in Bitcoin terms... imagine being locked in to pay 100k sats but instead of being valued at $100.00 usd it becomes $1000.00 from one month to the next?

For me - that is why I let the BTC value float when compared to the rent I charge...as I lock those rents in for 12 months....but imagine the pain I will feel if I lock someone into a 12 month lease at 1000.00/mo. and the value of that 1000.00 usd drops to 500.00 due to inflation.... It really is a matter of controlling the time and the value vs one or the other...

I think we are going to see a lot less long-term loan products on Bitcoin...and you won't find people with "annual" salaries but you likely find shorter and shorter term salaries....or locked in and paid up front or something....locked into a long-term multisig with monthly withdrawals or something based on performance?

Every property is positioned differently depending on the needs of the owner...but yes I would expect to be making significantly more than 10%....

What I am getting at though is that if you are operating on a Bitcoin standard you could be holding rents flat or even reducing them (which undercuts the FIAT competition) and makes your model that much more sustainable over the long time horizon...

To many Bitcoiners are still stuck on this business model of making the most FIAT off the customer/consumer....and to me at least this market is not just about that...

Hell yea...that is going to be super difficult if you have long term agreements...one side or the other may get wrecked depending on volatility....unless both parties are well insulated to such volatility? Though even then....I wouldn't want to be on the 1 Bitcoin owed....if FIAT comparison takes a massive move....again unless the vol is ironed out with some type of protection maybe....???

Thats the beauty of holding the FIAT comparison....there is always protection in FIAT terms...even if FIAT ends and you owe a bunch in Bitcoin terms...(if FIAT has indeed ended then Bitcoin has become the only medium of exchange and it doesn't really matter anymore?

So maybe its just me....but here is how I play your model out....

You have charged me at least (and I emphasize AT LEAST) 10% more than you need to for rent if you can afford to continue operating and offer me this discount. This represents to me a breakdown of trust as I cannot trust you are going to simply offer me a 10% discount and break even or even at a loss??? No it reinforces to me that you are charging maybe 20-30-50....who knows what the topside profit margin is....whatever it is you have calculated it out and you know what price fluctuations will effect your sales within reasonable % points.... this probably reflects poorly upon my overall perception of the business and causes me to be overly aware of any problems and excessively critical of the business in order to help me feel I "got my monies worth" or whatever....

This certainly is problematic to every business and it doesn't matter if I pay you in sats or USD or hard labor.... (as an employee). I am incentivized to work for more from you no matter how I can get it...and that isn't fair for either party....but it is the system FIAT demands....

This Bitcoin appreciation concept works no matter the amount as it becomes less about making more for less....and more about more for each other? Or maybe I have this Bitcoin thing all wrong...???

I imagine you take a base pay in Bitcoin (to cover FIAT costs associated with whatever cost you incur for said advice) plus a % of any upside in value of that Bitcoin for some agreed upon time frame.... I imagine it works something like this... for smaller Bitcoin/FIAT terms (lets say $100.00 or less you might have a 24-72 or 24-96 hour slice of time for splitting any appreciation in FIAT terms....and you can lock it in to an account for yourself to receive a discount in those FIAT terms equal to the split in Bitcoin terms...so you never exchange anything afterwards...except the software credits the NPUB (or maybe this works with chaumian mints? or something?....never thought about that....or as a federation....that owns the business and provides this to their customers.....holy fuck....could that work?)