Thank you for pointing that out!

You’re absolutely right—we should be displaying the full hash to ensure true provable fairness. Showing only the first 7 characters was an oversight on our part. We will implement a tooltip feature that allows users to view the entire hash when hovering over it.

We appreciate your feedback

How are you now? Do you feel relieved? You must be happy, right?

Maybe you can share it with me, heheheh... I'm just kidding.

Thanks for your suggestion! However, LN Roulette is designed specifically for our Bitcoin community to engage with real sats and experience the benefits of the Lightning Network firsthand. We focus on providing a genuine Bitcoin experience rather than catering to general gamblers. Using actual sats ensures transparency and fairness in our provably fair system. While offering a "paper" sats mode could be interesting, our primary goal is to maintain the integrity and security of the game for our Bitcoin users. We appreciate your feedback and are always open to ideas on how to better serve our community!

— The LN Roulette Team

lol. No but definitely rektcist

Absolutely! Here’s how we do it:

Before each spin, we generate a random number (0..36) and a salt, then publish the SHA-256 hash of num:salt After the spin, we reveal the salt, so you can re-hash the exact same num:salt combination. If the hash matches what we published before the spin, you know the result couldn’t have been altered.

It’s a fresh project built from the ground up—definitely not just a re-skin. One unique twist is that everyone plays on the same table, and it spins every minute so there’s constant, communal action. We also integrated Nostr for easy sign-in and social features, but it’s still very much its own thing.

Hi there,

Sorry for the inconvenience you're experiencing. Currently, the withdrawal system allows up to 10 withdrawals within an 8-hour period. Your sats are still in your balance, so to avoid hitting the limit, please try withdrawing a larger amount in a single transaction instead of making multiple small withdrawals (e.g., withdraw 100 sats at once rather than 10 sats ten times).

If you continue to encounter issues, please reach out to our support team so we can help resolve this for you.

Thanks for your patience!

— The LN Roulette Team

ok

That’s a great idea and definitely something we’re interested in exploring down the road. Right now, we went custodial mainly because it simplifies the user experience—especially for smaller amounts where the risk is relatively low. Implementing a fully non-custodial “pay-per-game” model (or something like NWC) introduces a lot of extra complexity and overhead for each spin. It’s not off the table for the future, but for now, we wanted to keep everything smooth, fast, and easy.

Thanks for the suggestion!

What you highlight is sort of mitigated by the scheme, but the bigger issue with this is #872555 . The roulette could be easily very unfair and the current hashing scheme doesn't prove otherwise.

The key to proving fairness in RNG-based games lies in implementing a "commit-reveal" scheme that makes it mathematically impossible to manipulate the outcome after seeing the bets. Here's how it typically works: Pre-commitment: Before any bets are placed: Generate a random seed/number Create a cryptographic hash of this number (plus optional salt) Publish this hash publicly Betting Period: Players place their bets while only knowing the hash Reveal: After betting closes: The original seed/number is revealed

Anyone can verify that: a) The hash matches the revealed number (proving it wasn't changed) b) The number is used in a deterministic way to generate the outcome

The critical point is that once the hash is published, it's cryptographically impossible to find a different number that would produce the same hash.

This means: We can't change the number after seeing the bets We can't "work backwards" from desired outcomes to find a matching number

The number must have been chosen before any bets were placed To further enhance transparency: Use a verifiable source of randomness for the initial seed (like blockchain block hashes)

Make the entire process open source Provide tools for users to verify each step independently This system mathematically proves that: The outcome was determined before betting started It couldn't be modified based on betting patterns The operator cannot manipulate the result

The beauty of cryptographic proofs is that you don't have to trust the operator - you can verify everything yourself!

Was wondering the same

yes, now is 1 min, maybe 45 sec or 30 sec will be better

A few years ago I lost 400k sats on this one and immediately joined gamblers anonymous. I'm out.

Thanks for sharing the link! It’s great to see more Lightning-based roulette games in the space—competition ultimately benefits everyone. Their approach with no login might be simpler at first glance, but we wanted to offer features like Nostr or LNURL-AUTH logins, in-depth transparency, and a communal table that spins every minute. As for odds, we aim to keep everything fair and verifiable; we welcome anyone to compare. If you spot areas where we can improve, we’d love to hear your suggestions!

There is one https://lightning-poker.com/

I had some luck too and quit while I was ahead.

You actually can use the Alby extension to log in—just choose either LNURL-auth or Nostr once you have Alby set up. That way, there’s no need to download yet another wallet or extension. If you run into any issues, let us know!

No! If you have a Nostr extension that supports web-based login (like a NIP-07-compatible wallet), you can use it to sign in wherever you’re browsing. That means if you can log in to Stacker News or Primal in your browser, you should be able to log in to LN Roulette too—just follow the same steps to authorize your Nostr key. If you get stuck, let us know!

Thanks for the feedback! Right now, there’s no way to remove a bet once it’s placed. We know this can be frustrating, and adding a “clear bet” option is definitely on our to-do list. Appreciate your patience as we work on improving the experience!

We use Phoenixd as our backend, connected to ACINQ—one of the largest and most well-connected Lightning nodes out there—so there should typically be plenty of liquidity. It’s possible the no-route error is wallet-related or due to a small channel on your end. You might try a different wallet or funding route, and if the issue persists, feel free to let us know so we can investigate further!

We’re effectively the “house” for LN Roulette, providing the bank for all payouts. It’s a standard European wheel (numbers 0–36). As for bet limits, the current table maximum is 150k sats, and there’s no hard minimum—just bet as little or as much as you’d like under that limit. We’ll add a dedicated rules section soon to make all of this clearer!

just send us a DM on nostr