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"Pay to Post. Pay for another's attention. Pay to capture another's attention... it reduces spam and makes people think 'hey is it worth it if I post right now?"
That was a comment made by @028559d218 on one of my last post on Stacker News. The last phrase: " hey is it worth it if I post right now?" made me think of something I've been mulling over.
IS COMMENT PROFITABILITY PREFERABLE OR ETHICS OF POSTING?
This question has been on my mind since I started on SN. In principle, the free comments (5) that the platform gives to start seem to me to be the fairest I've seen, in any case, to earn SATs with a comment it must be well crafted and intelligent. But once we have already achieved some SATs, it is more ethical to make contributing posts than intelligent comments.
Why I use the expression "making posts is more ethical" because when we publish, it entails hard work, unless it is mediocre, and a greater expense is needed, so the possible profit is reduced.
Comments are economically more profitable, they cost 1 SATs and when someone zaps you with only 5 SATs you have already earned 4 times the investment (and in SN the Zaps are almost always 10 or more SATs), a post is more expensive and achieving a similar profit is more difficult.
I am not saying that commenting is bad, I even really enjoy when my posts have comments because it caught attention, interested the community, I contributed something useful and many times I benefit greatly from those comments. What I mean is that when we make posts, there are some here that when you check their profile you wonder where they get the time and knowledge to publish, that enriches the community.
Sometimes some of us don't know what to post about because we are not experienced or because we have no idea or because many topics have already been discussed and we think that what we are going to post has already been discussed. Maybe if the owners of territories proposed topics for publication each week that would help.
What I want to reflect on is that we should not use the work of others to seek personal benefit, it seems selfish to me. Thank you for existing Stacker News and you community of Bitcoiners.
Both are important but I'll slightly be biased towards comments. If there's one post that holds the same topic and a sub topic arises in a stacker's mind, it'd be better to comment it below the primary post.
Why I'm biased? Because I've been doing it ever since I joined SN. In starting, I used to read everything and then pass my comment with anything - it might be appreciation, a sub topic or criticism as well. I remember in my very early days on SN, I found a post that was upholding the 'meat based food for humans'. I searched a bit and found a link and a pic to elaborate what vegetarian foods can be the alternative to meat based food. I remember my comment was the top comment and it caught better attention than the post itself.
I'd also like to share that it's better for a new stacker to start with more comments for I've done the same and made by place easily among top stackers here.
Only remember it's v4v so, there's no need to comment just for the same of commenting. You've to value your 1 sat in the same way you do for 100 sats at least.
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The good thing about this platform is that every time we want to share we have to pay, so we are practicing V4V with SN, it deserves it. Also Bitcoin is money, so it should be used, but well used, so if I use it to exchange it for good quality knowledge, it is well used. Note that I use the term "use" and not "spend", Bitcoin is to use it, not to spend it just like that.
Now, our minds still contaminated by fiat, every time we use Bitcoin, we are thinking about spending fiat. For me having a SAT means work, where I live I only get SAT through SN and every now and then I buy something on P2P, but it is difficult, I am not complaining, just that for me 1 SAT cannot have the same value as 100 SATs because getting that SAT for me is a lot of PoW.
Commenting or Posting are both valid, otherwise you could only do one or the other. But let's remember, when we publish we are supporting the platform more.
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Post and comment! It's all about V4V 🤠
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I totally agree. What is important is the motivation to comment.
Sometimes we ask ourselves: "Would it be better if a comment was actually a post?"
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Would it be better if a comment was actually a post?
Yes sometimes, after you comment, you should make a separate post to further explore the idea in the comment.
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Some of the territories are charging extremely high fees imo therefore the investment to post is high relative to making a comment.
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Some of the territories are charging extremely high fees imo therefore the investment to post is high relative to making a comment.
You are absolutely right about that. Territory owners will know if these fees are feasible or not. But for example, Bitcoin-related territories, which are, as we say here, "the chicken of chicken rice," have acceptable publishing costs.
On one occasion, in the territory ~BooksAndArticles, its owner @siggy47, launched a contest to make a post about our Bitcoin journey. Likewise, other owners could launch ideas about which the stackers could publish in a given week, that would help those who do not have a 💡 to start a publication, and it would help the territory and the platform, in short, good for everyone.
They could even do a survey to determine what topics the stackers would like to publish on. These are just ideas that I propose and I do not think that would restrict anyone's freedom of expression, it would only be a suggestion on topics, without incurring a reward.
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i mean it's like one sat to comment which is tiny. i think the balance is good though as making a post should cost more to detract from spam and farming , like moon farming posts on reddit, whereas comments and engagement have to be cheaper because without them, it's not interesting. but if comments made too much, it would encourage spam attempts.
v4v is very hard i think, but SN seems to be hitting a great balance imo
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According to ek any comments are considered trolling. So now is "pay to troll".
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If it's not worth 100 sats (or hell even 50 sats) to post... If it's not worth at least 3-4 cents to capture another's attention and share something...
was it worth posting at all? In my opinion Stacker News and lightning posts and comments are the Season 1 'pilot' of Bitcoin Medium of Exchange
I believe in the long run, people will overwhelmingly pay for a quality 'internet' experience, it will only cost pennies (ie pennies per post), and it will make internet engagement dynamics healthier. It really is the best Bitcin MoE I think out there right now... which if true is remarkable.
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I agree SN has already created a solcial media platform with much higher quality content and community that say reddit or other social media platforms where spam and bs is predonominant. And yes it is an easy and useful way to use LN as a means of payment- but imo using LN or onchain to buy things in the 'real world' such as supporting LN/BTC accepting bricks and mortar businesses is also very important, and fun.
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