Airbtc - Bitcoin only baby - LFG AMA \ stacker news ~AMA

pull down to refresh

11.8k sats \ 10k boost \ 99 comments \ @Airbtc 1 Oct AMA

Here to build an entire separate economy that has absolutely nothing to do with the current fiat shitshow and answer any questions you have about it.

view all related items

151 sats \ 4 replies \ @TheMorningStar 1 Oct

Your site Seems flawless. That's cool. It also seems an app ready site. Do you intend to create an app for AirBTC?

43 sats \ 1 reply \ @Airbtc OP 1 Oct

Yes, creating an app is high on our list of future developments!

131 sats \ 0 replies \ @TheMorningStar 1 Oct

Thanks for the response.

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @knorozov 1 Oct

Which site?

221 sats \ 0 replies \ @c137Heather 2 Oct

airbtc.online

140 sats \ 2 replies \ @IamSINGLE 1 Oct

How do you gonna make AirBTC popular in India? Any plans?

44 sats \ 1 reply \ @Airbtc OP 1 Oct

We have had minimal traction in India. We are open to business from anywhere and would love more listings from India. The world is large, though, and we are still small. At this stage, we do not have any India-specific plans yet, but we do have an ambassador program where you can join up and get a 10% kickback from any listings you onboard.

230 sats \ 0 replies \ @IamSINGLE 1 Oct

Thanks for the information! Would surely try to find someone.

31 sats \ 3 replies \ @Golu 1 Oct

Do you also have plans for taxi rental like Uber? If yes, when do you think gonna accomplish it?

33 sats \ 2 replies \ @Airbtc OP 1 Oct

Not at the moment. Our plan for expansion is to include an insurance arm in the business, where hosts can pay a portion of their booking fee as insurance against damage. This could then grow as a business on its own. We are also looking to offer experiences in the future as part of our offering.

100 sats \ 1 reply \ @bitslinger 1 Oct

Would the insurance fund just consist of paying claims in Bitcoin?

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Airbtc OP 2 Oct

Yes!

110 sats \ 1 reply \ @k00b 1 Oct

What's the most surprising benefit when using bitcoin for short term rentals?

100 sats \ 0 replies \ @Airbtc OP 1 Oct

The Bitcoin community is incredible. There are minimal problems with disorderly conduct, lying, "Karen-like" behavior, etc. I would say probably 10% of the issues that other platforms face.

110 sats \ 1 reply \ @k00b 1 Oct

What are your plans to bootstrap the double-sided market? AirBnB notoriously had a tricky time doing this. Are the things they did applicable to you all?

33 sats \ 0 replies \ @Airbtc OP 1 Oct

Airbnb already overcome most of the obstacles facing booking platforms. They were pioneers in this space, and all booking platforms operating today do so because of them.

That being said, we do have a unique business case and aim to use the power of Bitcoin the technology, and the bitcoin community at large to drive our success.

521 sats \ 2 replies \ @Ginepro_Co 1 Oct

Why do you chose to implement Google SignUp? When Lightning or Nostr signup/login? https://lnurl-auth-for-wordpress.joelstuedle.ch/

20 sats \ 1 reply \ @Airbtc OP 2 Oct

Excellent question.

The answer is as soon as we can.

Thank you for the link! I already checked it out and forwarded it to our devs.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Ginepro_Co 2 Oct

That's will be great and is an easy plugin to install and setup!

Look forward to receive an answer to my other questions if and when you can. Thank you for all your great work!

31 sats \ 2 replies \ @zapsammy 1 Oct

what are your recommendations for bitcoiners using AirBTC who are wary of $20 wrench attacks on the guests and/or hosts? is there a guide section about that?

adjacent question: what are the AirBnB stats on attacks on hosts/guests for the purpose of extortion?

13 sats \ 0 replies \ @Airbtc OP 2 Oct

The reality is that $20 wrench attacks are extraordinarily rare. Our users have a better chance of dying in a car accident on the way to a booking.

People being targeted because they use Bitcoin or wear Bitcoin merch is simply not a reality. If you want to argue against this point, please start by pointing out the 10 most disturbing cases.

Your government debasing your currency and not performing its duty to protect its citizens against criminals is the real issue that needs to be solved.

That being said, we do not disclose the identities of our users to anyone, and the addresses of our listings are set to "approximate" on our map, making it harder to locate. If you have any suggestions for more measures you would like to see on the site, we are all ears!

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Kontext 2 Oct

Asking the real questions

321 sats \ 1 reply \ @TheWildHustle 1 Oct

Site looks pretty good and has a surprising amount of listings so far. Nostr login and NWC would be a nice touch.

DM me on nostr if you need help with continued nostr integration or administrative/customer service help.

10 sats \ 0 replies \ @Airbtc OP 1 Oct

We are looking at more Nostr integration! Thanks, I will get in touch.

121 sats \ 5 replies \ @dayOldDonuts 1 Oct

** Access denied. Your IP address is blacklisted. If you feel this is in error please contact your hosting provider's abuse department. **

This was an attempt to access your web site via tor.

0 sats \ 4 replies \ @Airbtc OP 1 Oct

Hmmm, maybe you should try to access it via a standard browser? :)

21 sats \ 1 reply \ @anon 2 Oct

Or maybe you should make it Tor friendly?

Bitcoin related sites that block Tor have a very specific bad smell.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Airbtc OP 2 Oct

This issue has not come up for us before. We will look into this, and if it makes sense for us, meaning that the benefits outweigh the risks, we will implement!

Thanks for the suggestion!

1120 sats \ 1 reply \ @dayOldDonuts 1 Oct

Most of my web browsing is using Firefox on Qubes OS with a Whonix gateway and much of my BTC transactions are done using TailsOS on a USB drive (thanks @DarthCoin). Both setups use tor for accessing the internet. It seems that many bitcoiners prefer online privacy, especially when transacting with their bitcoin, and therefore are using similar setups. Your current configuration forces people back out on the clearnet to access AirBTC's web site.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Airbtc OP 2 Oct

Thanks for this. I didn't know that many users would prefer using TOR to access Airbtc. Will definitely check out the possibilities of allowing TOR access.

421 sats \ 9 replies \ @Coinsreporter 1 Oct

Why did you choose the name AirBTC?

110 sats \ 8 replies \ @Airbtc OP 1 Oct

This name is self-explanatory, meaning that anyone who sees it should instantly know what our company does. There are not a lot of businesses that can say that. Plus it has BTC in the name which is awesome:)

216 sats \ 7 replies \ @Coinsreporter 1 Oct

self-explanatory, How does 'Air' explain property rental service?

33 sats \ 6 replies \ @Airbtc OP 1 Oct

This is not a conductive comment made in good faith. Go and troll somewhere else.

100 sats \ 5 replies \ @Coinsreporter 1 Oct

Sorry, you felt that way. I didn't mean it. I really don't know how does it fit in. I know there's one more with the 'Air' prefix but I never had a chance to ask someone from them. If you still think it's trolling, good luck with your project. Keep doing the work.

21 sats \ 4 replies \ @Airbtc OP 1 Oct

Dude, the biggest property booking platform in the world is called "Airbnb."

100 sats \ 3 replies \ @Coinsreporter 1 Oct

That I know but why they and now you using 'Air'? What does it stand for? Do you have some story or is there some acronym for 'Air' that I don't know?

10 sats \ 2 replies \ @Airbtc OP 1 Oct

Hahaha, no dude, they used the name because the idea was that someone could use an air mattress and rent out their living room as an extra room. We are using it because of the wordplay.

view replies

110 sats \ 2 replies \ @Coinsreporter 1 Oct

What's your faith in advertisement? Do you think AirBTC will ever run an advertisement campaign on TV or on a streaming video platform?

74 sats \ 1 reply \ @Airbtc OP 1 Oct

On traditional television, no. But we already have some plans to make video ads and post them on X and wherever possible.

For now, we are riding the wave of interest we are getting from the launch, but when that ends, regular marketing practices will need to take hold.

We are targeting Bitcoiners only for now, but in like 10 years everyone will be a Bitcoiner :)

110 sats \ 0 replies \ @Coinsreporter 1 Oct

Amazing!

110 sats \ 1 reply \ @Coinsreporter 1 Oct

What's the greatest challenge you see for AirBTC going ahead?

20 sats \ 0 replies \ @Airbtc OP 1 Oct

Our client base is large but geographically very far apart. Getting enough listing on the site to have a place available when someone wants to book at a specific location is our biggest problem.

400 sats \ 5 replies \ @DarthCoin 1 Oct

How many rental listing you have now on AirBTC? How many listings do you think will have AirBTC in 5 years?

121 sats \ 4 replies \ @Airbtc OP 1 Oct

We have almost 200 listings from around the world right now. We aim to have 500 by the end of the year and 1000 by the end of Q1 2025. In 5 years, who knows? Airbnb has over a million.

22 sats \ 1 reply \ @Natalia 2 Oct

hot tip: Airbnb is facing new law issue in Turkey, many hosts delisted their properties in Airbnb, imagine if you can reach that market:))

33 sats \ 0 replies \ @Airbtc OP 2 Oct

Let's goooo! Thanks for the tip!

100 sats \ 1 reply \ @DarthCoin 1 Oct

Good. I will try to bring some owners to list their properties and rentals there. I really like this initiative !

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Airbtc OP 1 Oct

Appreciated!

400 sats \ 4 replies \ @DarthCoin 1 Oct

What is Bitcoin circular economy for you? Can you give a simple example how AirBTC could start a bitcoin circular economy?

0 sats \ 3 replies \ @Airbtc OP 1 Oct

By Bitcoin circular economy, I mean "the Bitcoin circular economy." People transacting and exchanging goods and services using Bitcoin as a medium of exchange.

100 sats \ 2 replies \ @Airbtc OP 1 Oct

This could and should be an entirely separate circular economy where Bitcoin flows round and round and NO fiat or rent seekers are present.

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @DarthCoin 1 Oct

Do you think the landlords from AirBTC are also paying for employees, cleaning, maintenance etc in BTC ? That will be an interesting circular economy in making.

22 sats \ 0 replies \ @Airbtc OP 1 Oct

I don't think the majority are. Their income from Airbtc would still be minimal compared to regular rentals. But every bit helps. Eventually, they all will pay everyone in btc.

200 sats \ 1 reply \ @SatsMate 2 Oct

Love it! If there is a place being hosted in the western U.S. I will definitely book through here! I frequent national parks on the western part of the USA

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Airbtc OP 2 Oct

We have some listings in the US, but we could do with a lot more!

200 sats \ 1 reply \ @Msd0457890 2 Oct

Hi, I think your initiative is excellent. I recently started using Bitcoin.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Airbtc OP 2 Oct

Thank you!

200 sats \ 1 reply \ @travis 2 Oct

This is cool. I have a studio apartment for rent soon that we will be doing nightly rentals for. Will check this out!

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Airbtc OP 2 Oct

Appreciated!

200 sats \ 2 replies \ @grayruby 1 Oct

You had me at Bitcoin only baby.

What's harder, finding people to list their properties on the site or finding consumers for the listings?

140 sats \ 1 reply \ @Airbtc OP 1 Oct

So far, both. Chicken and egg. But I have to say, the support from the Bitcoin community at large has been epic.

100 sats \ 0 replies \ @grayruby 1 Oct

That's great.

100 sats \ 0 replies \ @Bitcoinisawesome 1 Oct

When you host your place on airbnb your house is insured to cover damages by the people renting from you. Do you have a system in place to handle that situation? If not, do you plan to? How would a dispute be handled by airbtc?

100 sats \ 1 reply \ @Coinsreporter 1 Oct

What's your opinion about Stacker News and the community? Is there something that you don't like about SN?

70 sats \ 0 replies \ @Airbtc OP 1 Oct

I have been scrolling personally for quite some time on Stacker News, love it.

100 sats \ 3 replies \ @User21000000 1 Oct

Best ways to maximise the benefits of Bitcoin in the new economy?

100 sats \ 2 replies \ @Airbtc OP 1 Oct

Get yourself on a Bitcoin standard and live on it. I have been living fully Bitcoin for almost three years now. I do have a personal fiat bank account, but I only sell Bitcoin and transfer to that as needed for the expenses that I can't pay in Bitcoin on a minimal basis.

The side effect of this is huge. You spend much less for starters, and you only spend on things you really need.

300 sats \ 0 replies \ @DarthCoin 1 Oct

you only spend on things you really need.

A truly bitcoiner here !

100 sats \ 0 replies \ @User21000000 1 Oct

Could imagine all the money “” I converted to Bitcoin never comes back to local money

100 sats \ 1 reply \ @grayruby 1 Oct

Where do you like to advertise the site?

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Airbtc OP 1 Oct

At this stage, we are targeting any Bitcoin-only or bitcoin-related platforms, events, and media. But the world is large, and there are many!

100 sats \ 2 replies \ @jasonb 1 Oct

Wen Ohio?

21 sats \ 0 replies \ @Airbtc OP 1 Oct

Dude, get us some listings in Ohio! We have a large presence in the US, and our head of business development lives in Orlando! Get in touch!

100 sats \ 0 replies \ @jasonb 1 Oct

Love the idea by the way and can't wait to use it.

100 sats \ 2 replies \ @benwehrman 1 Oct

Not including Bitcoin stuff, what do you believe is the biggest problem with Airbnb that AirBTC can/will to fix? (Can be something that hasn't been added yet but is on the roadmap)

131 sats \ 1 reply \ @Airbtc OP 1 Oct

THE biggest, by far, are compliance and regulation. We dont want anything to do with that, and because we dont have a fiat bank account, anyone can list and anyone can book through us without your local rent seeker stopping you.

500 sats \ 0 replies \ @DarthCoin 1 Oct

Exactly that. The regulations and bullshit laws are only for fiat, not for Bitcoin. But once you touch fiat, they will eat you alive.

100 sats \ 1 reply \ @benwehrman 1 Oct

Have you looked into collaboration opportunities with the Nostr project Satlantis?

Seems like the combination of you two would be epic - both travel/accommodation focused bitcoin projects 👀

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Airbtc OP 1 Oct

Yes, we are already in the process of partnering with them on various levels. Watch this space. Good question.

0 sats \ 2 replies \ @tradenet 2 Oct

I have a property. How do I sign up?

10 sats \ 1 reply \ @Airbtc OP 2 Oct

You can create a profile on the website and upload your property! airbtc.online

Should you encounter any problems, please reach out to support @airbtc.online

Thanks, LFG!

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @tradenet 2 Oct

Ok, I’ll look at it. I’ve been in the B&B biz for 17 years. Reach out if you need assistance! Thx.

0 sats \ 2 replies \ @BitcoinIsTheFuture 2 Oct

What excites you most about the next year and how do we get others there?

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @Airbtc OP 2 Oct

The thought of the fiat economy collapsing:)

We are looking forward to growing our user base and proving that a Bitcoin-only approach is superior to the existing fiat system!

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @BitcoinIsTheFuture 2 Oct

Awesome, let’s go!

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @knorozov 1 Oct

Should we guess what you do and what the url is?

100 sats \ 0 replies \ @Ginepro_Co 1 Oct

https://airbtc.online/

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Ginepro_Co 1 Oct

How do you manage refunds in case guest or host cancel the reservation?

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Ginepro_Co 1 Oct

Do you verify all properties listed on AirBTC? I mean, can you avoid people creating fakes and how do you deal in case a customer book a scammer?

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Ginepro_Co 1 Oct

I'm assuming AirBTC is only connecting host and guests. What happen in case there's any issue?

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @Ginepro_Co 1 Oct

What's the most common issue your AirBTC hosts and guest have respectively when dealing with the platform?

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Airbtc OP 1 Oct

Thank you for your questions! I am going to bed now and will respond to them tomorrow!

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @benwehrman 1 Oct

In your personal opinion, what is the coolest property listed on AirBTC right now? (or multiple)

I'm always on the hunt for cool places to check out, inspire me!

100 sats \ 0 replies \ @Airbtc OP 1 Oct

We have many awesome listings. But check out these two:

https://airbtc.online/properties/kuoom-savana-suite-no-1-cozy-accommodation-with-private-terrace-and-exclusive-views/

https://airbtc.online/properties/the-ranch-house-wrich-ranches/

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @k00b 1 Oct

Smartest person you ever met?

100 sats \ 0 replies \ @Airbtc OP 1 Oct

I think Allen Farrington is pretty smart. Probably the smartest millennial I know of. Then, Hoppe and Saifedean are up there in my opinion.

I never met any of them in real life, though.

When I read Mises, I get the feeling that he was on a totally different level of intellect than anyone alive today.