So called MMAGA, Make Middle Age Great Again.
105 sats \ 2 replies \ @BTCLNAT 1 Sep
A very hot topic at the point of deciding, from the perspective of each party, which book is or is not appropriate. Censorship in response to a greater good can be misused. In the end it is censorship, and it is against the right to express what one wants, through whatever language. Clearly then in this case, how I help my son to appropriately select what he is going to consume, in this case, what book he is going to read, plays an important role.
On the other hand, we have unscrupulous people who use freedom of expression to override the rights of others.
Would it make any sense for a school library to have books related to pornography and pedophilia?
It is clear that the Internet is full of that, but no one expects that in a school it is reading material for children.
It is an issue where the rights of the parties are at stake. And the rights of others end where my rights begin.
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10 sats \ 0 replies \ @oliverweiss OP 1 Sep
I can only agree with you, with this and other statements. 💯%!
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Bell_curve 1 Sep
What about hate speech laws?
Any anti immigration sentiment is suppressed and prosecuted in England and Germany
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55 sats \ 2 replies \ @grayruby 1 Sep
Whatever side you take on this issue I would think an easy fix here is for a book to be banned it needs more than one person challenging it. I mean the fact that all these challenges are coming from 11 people is ridiculous.
Should need 1000 signatures to challenge a book.
That’s my two sats anyways.
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40 sats \ 0 replies \ @oliverweiss OP 1 Sep
This makes definitely more sense.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @AJ1992 1 Sep
We have left school librarians and teachers the job of deciding which books are appropriate for years and years now without any real issues. This whole book banning nonsense only started after parents started injecting themselves into school lesson planning. My generation was really the last to graduate high school before that started (I'm 31, graduated HS 2011.) We took sex education in fifth grade and we laughed and giggled for weeks over saying penis and vagina and we read Lord of the Flies in high school and other somewhat explicit books and we all turned out just fine.
And guess what. We also had a couple teachers in middle and elementary school that were openly gay. And not a single one tried to force us into being gay either!
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137 sats \ 2 replies \ @AJ1992 1 Sep
Florida is a fucking joke. All the Rethuglicans want to do is keep the people as uneducated as possible. Look at the statistics the states with the lowest educational scores consistently are red states. I finally found another anti-MAGA person on here, yay!
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100 sats \ 1 reply \ @oliverweiss OP 1 Sep
I am ok with America being great, can be the greatest ever. Republicans are however incapable and incompetent of doing anything useful, imo. They don’t have capacities to do so, attract the worst of the worst.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @AJ1992 1 Sep
Fucking accurate.
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34 sats \ 1 reply \ @tomlaies 1 Sep
There is a certain kind of people nowadays that claim to be "free speech absolutists" but are quick to ban books if they don't like them or censor the word "cisgender" from twitter because they don't like it
Even the most die hard republicans - if the actually genuinely believe in free speech - should oust these hypocrites.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @AJ1992 1 Sep
They don't. The real Republican party died a long time ago. It's only a cult now and you must pledge loyalty to Donald Trump, not the constitution.
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20 sats \ 0 replies \ @synergymatrix 1 Sep
What is happening here Florida? Florida is seemingly afraid of the macabre. This is crazy if they think that it goes in contrast with their political inclinations, that is just too childish a reason.
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21 sats \ 8 replies \ @siggy47 1 Sep
Banned In Florida? How do they handle Amazon orders? I can't believe this isn't a bigger story. What about Borders?
Is this perhaps a misleading headline?
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43 sats \ 0 replies \ @tomlaies 1 Sep
It's illegal to do so but you can still do it. Statewide authority can't scan all packages.
It's very similar to Cannabis in the US. Illegal federally, legal in e.g. Colorado. If you walk by a state police cop and a federal cop next to each other with a joint one of them can't arrest you but the other can.
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43 sats \ 6 replies \ @oliverweiss OP 1 Sep
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21 sats \ 5 replies \ @siggy47 1 Sep
So not all of Florida? From Florida school libraries? High school? Middle school? Elementary school? I just re read the article. So this is county by county? Not statewide?
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10 sats \ 4 replies \ @oliverweiss OP 1 Sep
Does it matter? One single school is too many already.
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57 sats \ 3 replies \ @siggy47 1 Sep
Well, it matters because these crazy partisan headlines on both sides just tend to inflame, not foster discussion. I despise book banning of any kind, but it would make sense to know what the issue is. Apparently any county bans are for children below 18 years old. The headline is misleading. It implies a statewide ban.
Both sides like to ban what they don't like, whether it's books or social media.
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64 sats \ 2 replies \ @Undisciplined 1 Sep
Thanks for saving me the trouble of digging to the bottom of this, @siggy47. From the headline, I was 99% confident this was fake news.
There's nothing crazy about curating school libraries for appropriate materials. These are state institutions, so who's supposed to make these decisions if not the public or the bureaucracy itself?
Unless you think there should be hardcore pornography and snuff films in elementary school libraries, you're also pro-censorship and the discussion is entirely about where to draw the lines.
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @oliverweiss OP 1 Sep
Curating, very nice framing. I have to reread some King’s books, apparently I missed the hardcore porn parts.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Undisciplined 1 Sep
Miss my point on purpose if you like. I suspect you're smart enough to understand what I was getting at and you're choosing to be as uncharitable as possible.
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45 sats \ 1 reply \ @79c9095526 1 Sep
It is always the good guys who ban and burn the books in history right? That's the side you want to be on
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10 sats \ 0 replies \ @oliverweiss OP 1 Sep
The bad guys. DeSantis is a bad guy.
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0 sats \ 2 replies \ @Bell_curve 1 Sep
The lawsuit names the Florida Board of Education as a defendant.
"This is a stunt," Florida Department of Education spokesperson Sydney Booker said in a statement to CBS News. "There are no books banned in Florida. Sexually explicit material and instruction are not suitable for schools."
Not named is Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, who championed the law.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/florida-book-ban-major-publishers-sue-over-law-schools/
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @oliverweiss OP 1 Sep
So what happened to those (about 1400-3500) books which disappeared from the libraries. If the books were not banned, then what? How would you call it? Is this censorship? And if it is (it is!) why do you support it and don’t scream out loud about it like you did when Durov was arrested?
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @AJ1992 1 Sep
Because theyre.hypocrites. it's all they know
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Satoshi__Nakamoto 1 Sep
Umm
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