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168 sats \ 27 replies \ @SimpleStacker 14 Aug \ parent \ on: German Media Finally Links Ukraine to Nord Stream 2 Attack news

Them trying to blame Russia at first for blowing up their own pipeline is one of the stupidest thing I ever saw.

32 sats \ 15 replies \ @Cje95 14 Aug

To be honest I am still not sure Ukraine could have pulled this off years ago... Ukraine now with its drone tech yeah but I mean for a couple of years ago??? I feel its a reach

47 sats \ 14 replies \ @SimpleStacker 14 Aug

I think they had u.s. help.

0 sats \ 2 replies \ @Cje95 14 Aug

I'd agree but when the Biden Admin did the LNG export pause freeze in Jan that directly affected almost all of Europe if not all of it. Given how the admin did this to themselves makes me wonder if it wasn't someone else like a Qatar

21 sats \ 1 reply \ @SimpleStacker 14 Aug

It's entirely plausible to me that this is an example of the left hand not talking to the right hand.

The administration is really a bunch of people and groups each with their own agenda, and sometimes those agendas don't align or coordinate

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Cje95 14 Aug

Yeah its either that or someone or some country in the Middle East that knows that the US or Russia would be the prime suspects and shield the others!

0 sats \ 10 replies \ @Undisciplined 14 Aug

I thought we already knew it was the CIA with some help from other NATO members.

27 sats \ 9 replies \ @Cje95 14 Aug

Idk the CIA has been hamared with spy ring busts in China and failures in the Middle East so for them to pull this off.... seems like a stretch.

I could see a Middle Eastern country though do it and play the game that they might not be the first to benefit but they can undercut the US long term.

43 sats \ 8 replies \ @Undisciplined 14 Aug

I'm not trying to speculate about the culprit.

There was a big Seymour Hersch article about this, shortly after the event. I thought it was more or less the accepted account. Obviously, the US Government will never admit to it, if it was them.

84 sats \ 3 replies \ @siggy47 15 Aug

I'm going with Hersch. Didn't Nuland practically telegraph this? Then Blinken could barely contain his joy. Occam's Razor

78 sats \ 1 reply \ @TomK OP 15 Aug

Nuland always explained quite well their neocon warfare

47 sats \ 0 replies \ @siggy47 15 Aug

Yes she did

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47 sats \ 0 replies \ @Undisciplined 15 Aug

That's right. I had forgotten about them doing the whole "That's a nice pipeline you've got there. It would be a shame if something happened to it." routine.

21 sats \ 3 replies \ @Cje95 14 Aug

Huh I dont remember seeing that article but tbh I still don't think we would have been able to execute it to the level that we have and if we did I think we would have done a top-notch job at framing Russia with no chance of Ukraine ever being thought as the culprit. As soon as people think Ukraine is responsible by default the US comes into focus and then the CIA

47 sats \ 2 replies \ @Undisciplined 14 Aug

Initially, people thought is was silly to suspect Ukraine as the culprit, because they don't have that kind of military capacity or deep sea demolition capability. The US was the prime suspect right away.

31 sats \ 0 replies \ @TomK OP 15 Aug

Organized by the UK, fulfilled by a coalition of ukranians, poles and 'friends' from Norway.

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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Cje95 14 Aug

Because it is so apparent it would be the US is kinda what makes me think maybe it was someone in the Middle East who needed a reason to build out their LNG like the UAE, Qatar, I think Saudi has it as well since they have so much crude oil.....

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