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109 sats \ 28 replies \ @TomK OP 14 Aug \ parent \ on: German Media Finally Links Ukraine to Nord Stream 2 Attack news
I can also well imagine that, in view of the fact that this war has been lost, Germany is now trying to build its first bridges and get out of it. perhaps this should be seen in this context
Them trying to blame Russia at first for blowing up their own pipeline is one of the stupidest thing I ever saw.
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To be honest I am still not sure Ukraine could have pulled this off years ago... Ukraine now with its drone tech yeah but I mean for a couple of years ago??? I feel its a reach
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I think they had u.s. help.
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It's entirely plausible to me that this is an example of the left hand not talking to the right hand.
The administration is really a bunch of people and groups each with their own agenda, and sometimes those agendas don't align or coordinate
I thought we already knew it was the CIA with some help from other NATO members.
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Idk the CIA has been hamared with spy ring busts in China and failures in the Middle East so for them to pull this off.... seems like a stretch.
I could see a Middle Eastern country though do it and play the game that they might not be the first to benefit but they can undercut the US long term.
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I'm not trying to speculate about the culprit.
There was a big Seymour Hersch article about this, shortly after the event. I thought it was more or less the accepted account. Obviously, the US Government will never admit to it, if it was them.
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That's right. I had forgotten about them doing the whole "That's a nice pipeline you've got there. It would be a shame if something happened to it." routine.
Huh I dont remember seeing that article but tbh I still don't think we would have been able to execute it to the level that we have and if we did I think we would have done a top-notch job at framing Russia with no chance of Ukraine ever being thought as the culprit. As soon as people think Ukraine is responsible by default the US comes into focus and then the CIA
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Initially, people thought is was silly to suspect Ukraine as the culprit, because they don't have that kind of military capacity or deep sea demolition capability. The US was the prime suspect right away.
Why would Russia blow up the pipeline if they can turn if off?
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Maidan is a movement, a revolution not a coup!
Innocent Ukraine fighting for freedom versus imperial Russia
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This is a really good joke.
So you think it is revolutionary when a nationalist mob kills and burns leftists?
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- I was joking
- I have no problem with burning leftists
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- Good to hear
- This is a little bit concerning... Or another joke.
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Leftists are enemies
Do you coexist or destroy your enemies?