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Howdy there, partner! Welcome on into the Stacker Saloon.

Saddle on up to a stool and spill the beans about your day, fire away with them questions, or let loose and give us the lowdown on your wild and woolly life. We're all ears, so don't hold back!

We're open round the clock, so mosey on in whenever you please!

@k00b, check your TG, slack is not working

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🤘⚡️SNL starting at 4pm today Texas time

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haha you almost did the 200 post of Saloon

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Boney M. - Rasputin (45th Anniversary - Visual Album)
https://youtu.be/aA4N91IBpp0

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Some good vibes right here.

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i noticed there haven't been any rewards the last few days. is that a bug, or just more testing on how rewards work?

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You posted only 363 items on SN.
Daily rewards are only for those who posted more than 1000 items.
And most important: they have a cowboy hat for at least 21 days.

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Thank you for the info, much appreciated.

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Was a joke man. You should pay more attention to my sarcasm :)

Would you mind sharing the link with this information please.

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i think this is going to take some while

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I just made it up. For fun.

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Going to start a podcast "What if Bitcoin Did" and interview soft fork proposers.

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Ha, I'll start one too "What if Bitcoin didn't" I'll interview stackers and listen to them ramble about an alternate universe where they're stuck in clown world without a lifeboat.

Money is both so boring and so powerful.

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It's been a while since the first fiat money: 7th century BC 😂

https://m.stacker.news/5157

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Lol, this is so funny

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Those look like gold coins. If that's the case then those coins can't be regarded as fiat currency because the gold itself has value.

This is the definition for fiat currency: A fiat currency is a national currency that is not pegged to the price of a commodity such as gold or silver. The value of fiat money is largely based on the public's faith in the currency's issuer, which is normally that country's government or central bank.

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Lol the aliens also need teeth to chew there food.

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they are having liquid food.

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Today from 6 people 4 failed on the quantitative exam including me😂 How can you finish with 15 different calculations in 1 hour???? Not even talking about how boring is it to use nonsense formulations. So annoying. Even if I get my diploma I would never work to a bank or any institution that tells me my time table... This shit is up side down.. F*cking hating this..

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What is the exam for? Like what diploma?

Better luck next time...!

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Thanks, it is corporate finance 😄

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Anyone knows about any btc miner with passive cooling? No fan, no noise, just a big chunk of metal... like a big block to leave in some place in your house.

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i have a dream ... of creating a bunch of landing pages for businesses that don't exist


StallBuddy - find the best public bathroom stalls near you. real stalls. real reviews.

business model: premium subscription unlocks double ply locations

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We ordered a few turkeys for Thanksgiving:

https://m.stacker.news/5148

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That's a lot of turkey power.
Let us know how long it took them to clean the yard.

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We used to have flocks come graze in our yard in California. I've heard they're really hard to hunt but they are seem so docile

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@k00b different videos from https://yewtu.be show up as dupes when you go to post them on SN

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damn... these yews are watching SN and play with algo 😂😂😂😂
Conspiracy alert!

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Ah I'll make a ticket

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@Car, this SNL will be finally on https://zap.stream/ or not?

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Last time we tried it the stream didn't show up.

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Let's crowdfound a nostr zap.stream course for @Car

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It might be me that needs the course. Car is pretty sure it's my fault lol

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102 sats \ 1 reply \ @Car 17 Nov 2023

ya def keyans fault if he gave me the keys to the castle i could have it up

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Well today was OK. Worked half day. Not a permanent job. Was really hot here today. Now it's cooler with a chance for some rain. After I got home my back was hurting so much I went to lay down and found myself passing out. Also stacked a couple sats here and there and also stacking others here and there. May y'all have a restful evening.

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Im glad your day was good. Its a shame to hear about your back. I hope you its better after the rest. Im also stacking sats because why not, its fun.

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I want to put some attention to The Perils of Premature Protocol Ossification from @nerd2ninja since I'm quite surprised there were no sats or comments.

I bookmarked that post to watch it later and comment. I did now and then I wanted to push it to the front page by zapping it heavily but looks like my ability to do that has passed, lol

So I am asking the cowboys in the saloon to reconsider watching it - maybe you just missed it? :)

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I agree with @DarthCoin. Thanks!

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so many lost good posts... in the ocean of spam, sad.
Is good with these reminders. Thanks.

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What's going on with freebie posts, how do they work now?

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wdym?

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I see someone with 15/21 recent posts are freebies, seemed like a lot

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I've been thinking about doing a semi-long form write-up about my experience with a FutureBit Apollo miner in the coming weeks, now that I've had it for several months. Is that something folks would be interested in reading?

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Im keen to read your experience. Share the link in the saloon when you've published the post.

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Yes, I like to read that kind of content.

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Yes. Definitely

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100x yes

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I am satisfied that at least somebody here is doing homework...
These are the most important documents in human history!
Represent the proof that living men were converted into SLAVES, without even knowing it.
But yeah... people are busy with voting politicians... bread and circus.
Well done!

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Howdy partners! Just HODLing onto my hat here. Just hit 70 days!

https://m.stacker.news/5133

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Man you have a big head. Lol.
But on a serious note, congratulations on the achievement.

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Congrats!

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Do people want to bet if I'll be able to release a MVP of delphi.market until 1st December 2023?

We could make a prediction market about my prediction market 👀

I need to write down the features that should be included in this MVP first though

I'm willing to bet 50k sats that I'll be able to do it. See how confident I am. lol

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Lol. No bet. My sats are staying where they belong: under my mattress.

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Oh, btw, related thread: #319004

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Yeah more information needed bro.

But I would almost certainly take the bet just to support you and prod you a little bit. :)

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I'll try to get some frontend mockups for the individual pages. Shouldn't be too many. And add some explanation what you should be able to do on every page (functionality).

Also helps me to reduce feature creep :)

But I would almost certainly take the bet just to support you and prod you a little bit. :)

Appreciated :) I see this more as something symbolic. Also, would be interesting what kind of bets people would be willing to take. Bet 1 sat to win 100 sats? So 100x profit? This would mean they are really confident in me, lol

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The funny thing is, in a prediction market, I could also say how much I expect to win per share.

So it could be that I'm willing to lose 50k sats but only if I can win 100k sats.

This would mean I think the odds are 2:1, so just 33% confidence.

(I hope this is right, I sometimes still get confused with all these transformations between confidence, price per share, odds etc., lol)

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I think it largely gets confusing because "win" is used in two different ways.

In your example, winning 100k on a 50k bet means you walk away with 150k,

Sometimes, though, winning 100k just means that's what you walk away with, so that would be 1:1 odds on a 50k wager.

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you're right. i knew it wasn't well defined but i was too lazy to distinguish, lol

how would you say it? to gain 100k? or just "to make 100k profit"?

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I would probably say "gain", but I'm not aware of there being any consensus on this terminology.

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software seems to be never done though :)

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Well hello there my friend!! Friday is here and the beginning of the weekend has arrived, sky is clear, sun is shinning and the day has just begun, time to show this day what we're capable of, one last push to finish strong and relax on the weekend, treat yourself with something you want, whatever it may be just do it (as long it's not harmful to oneself or others) may your Friday be filled with success, profit, love and joy. I wanted to let you know that you're important and you mean a lot. You're amazing and never forget it. So let's chew bubble gum and kick ass, and we just ran out of bubble gum. Let's do thiiiis. Have a phenomenal start of the weekend. Be well and stay frosty my loved friend.

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Howdy partner. Thank you for the positive vibes. My Friday is about to come to an end. I hope you're having a blessed day and may those blessing spill over into your weekend.

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Always positive vibes my friend, thank you so much for your warm wishes and I will cherish them, I'm having a wonderful day so far and it will remain so, specially with your good wishes!! Thank you!!!

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You as well my good friend, make it spectacular!!

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I like it bc it lets me recognize people of my vintage :)

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Great movie indeed!! I'm THAT old. Lol

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Day 216 of snailposting everyday 'til BTC hits $100k.

...and 16 push-up(s).

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This push-ups is new to me... strong snail...

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So this dude is an ex-Federal Reserve employee and current professor of finance, who now teaches his students about the wonders of Hex:

https://nitter.cz/lamontkblack/status/1725124006762701103#m

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Welcome __@_'-'
Are you ready for the weekend?

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Shell yeah!

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Yeehaw partner!

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It's kind of rude to ask questions about a feature that doesn't exist yet, but I'm curious what the sub-board design will look like, the assumptions underlying it, and the features it will include to support the design goals.

For instance: you can imagine that sub-boards could be administered by a moderator; and then the mod gets to say "these are the rules to be here" a la Reddit. But what if the sub is about a contentious topic (e.g., religion, politics, the block subsidy) and douchebags show up to the sub trying to DDOS everything with asshole comments from multiple accounts, etc?

Then I thought: what if a sub could have an "ante" where you have to ante up some number of sats if you want to post, and the ante is timelocked so once you ante, you can't withdraw for a while. The sats are held in reserve in a sub-sub-wallet (ha!). If the user is an asshole, the mod can sweep the funds into the SN rewards pool.

Obviously you can imagine ways the mod can abuse this; but you can also see how market incentives provide strong abuse counter-incentives: a smart mod would be judicious about funds-sweeping, and would make a case for why she was proposing to sweep. If the sub got a bad rep, people would stop anteing up and the sub would quickly die. But there would be a public record of the action, and the user's actions pre-sweep, so people could decide for themselves.

Like the SN version of free-banking. Market in action. Only possible using btc / LN.

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We've been calling this staking. It's a feature that https://sphinx.chat has had for a long time.

It's been brought up a few times and I totally agree that we should add it as an option for sub founders. It hasn't made sense to add it to existing subs because all of these things slow growth, but one of the reasons I'm very excited for subs is that we'll hypothetically have tons of subs/economies with different rules running in parallel and competing.

Frankly, I'm open to adding all kinds of governance knobs for sub founders. As an extreme example of something interesting yet not something I'm sure we want to do is supporting coercion. It's something real economies have so why not virtual ones? If participating in subs (ie being a citizen in a territory) is opt-in, sub founders could maybe have some form of government and rule to seize assets of its citizens found guilty of being an asshole or levy more than just "sales tax." I don't think those subs would be popular but I don't actually know. Some people probably want to yield a gun and others probably prefer living under a gun yielded in way that they like.

tldr MVP won't have staking but I'd be happy to add it after the MVP.

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This needs a full SNL episode only.
@Car please convince @k00b to make a special episode about his topic.

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Going to start an toycoin where you can stake and earn wield.

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make it "cowboy-coin" that stake bullets for shitcoiners....

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Damn, @k00b! I feel like we're explorers venturing into a new world. Exciting times. I'm glad your imagination matches your technical abilities.

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If moderators were able to set the price for posting in the sub, wouldn't that give them the ability to head off your douchebags? I guess the point is that people behaving well can get their antes back, but I would imagine they're the ones getting zaps and rewards for their posts anyway.

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I think setting a baseline posting price (e.g., every post costs x) is roughly isomorphic to the ante idea, but different enough that it might feel different in practice. I'm not sure, though!

I imagine that posts costing 100 would result in different douchebag behavior than a douchebag anteing up 10k, knowing that he's going to be a douchebag (surely that's not a surprise to him, although who can say) and will consequently lose the 10k. It's like you're paying 10k for the exuberance of making a shitty post/comment that will be deleted in short order; and then your subsequent antes will simply be sent to SN rewards, so it's basically one and done.

(Is there an easy way to post the "sats" symbol, btw? How do people do that?)

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I'm the wrong person to ask those last two questions.

I see your point about the antes. I wasn't thinking about how a refundable ante could sustainably be orders of magnitude larger than posting costs can be.

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Being curious and wanting to understand something better is not rude. It's being proactive. For me, that's a positive mentality to have.

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You're right, in general. I value wanting to understand, too.

Maybe I could have said it this way: devs hate answering questions about stuff they're in the process of figuring out, partly bc they've probably discussed it ad nauseum, or even documented the answer somewhere already, and either way, answering the question takes away from the time they could spend shipping the feature, at which time your question will be answered if you would just shut up and let them work.

:)

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GM ⚡☕🧡

Have a great day!

Stack and spend some sats!

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GA cowboy ⚡☕🧡
Keep on stacking those sweet, sweet sats.

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Has anyone ever split wood? My neighbors do it a lot. It looks to be pretty intensive labor. I'm spoiled. I have always bought mine cut and split. The extra fee always seemed reasonable. But, now there's a lot of free firewood around if you do your own splitting.

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When I lived with my grandfather, we had a small kitchen house heated by a wood stove. Once he got to his 80s I started taking over chopping wood in the winter. He was a veteran from WWII, Darby's Rangers 1st Ranger Battalion. Hard to tell someone from his generation to go sit down and let someone else do the hard work.

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I think the older generation was built differently compared to the lazy asses of today. Social media and to be fair, the internet has completely f**** the youth of today. Majority have been consumed with shitty trends that has no real world benefits. I'm glad platforms like SN exists at least. The only places on the internet with sane people.

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He was of a tougher generation.

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https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3e/Generation_timeline.svg/langen-simple-1920px-Generation_timeline.svg.png

The "Greatest" apparently. What a time to be alive back then. Was going to post a fun fact here but I'll put it in the Fun Fact Friday.

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Many ways to go about it, all pretty dangerous if you're not concentrating. But then what would life be if there was no risk? In any case it is your own risk, in your own hands, a little like that thrill of the "has it worked" before your transaction shows up in its destination wallet. Whatever it is you're doing - don't rush.

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I'm old, with a growing list of health issues.

https://m.stacker.news/5130

A man needs to know his limitations.

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Sounds like you need to invest in a hydraulic attachment that you stick on the front of a forklift 😆

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I'm old, with a growing list of health issues.

Lol. You and me both. Sux getting old.

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Meditative exercise with a survival use case. Awesome!

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Imagine not know how to chop wood when you're stranded on an island. That would be really bad. I've been watching these survival videos where someone goes to an island and stays there for a few days. I've learned how to start a fire without matches. I guess I'm ready for the zombie apocalypse now. Lol.

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Yeah. Great exercise. Easy to hurt yourself in multiple ways. Work up to it is my advice.

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I think I'll try the middle ground with some sort of device. Me going out there with an axe has disaster written all over it.

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Good idea. You'd be missed around here.

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Only when braaiing, which is another word for barbequing. You must have a sharp axe, otherwise it will definitely become intensive labor.

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You must have a sharp axe

who knows... knows.

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Yes, I do that almost every week.
Is fun, a lot of exercise, no need to go to gym, keeps you healthy and in good shape.
You need a good ax and ... no fear. Confidence in your hands and muscles.
I get wood in big pieces from near by source (a lot of forest to cleanup around and is free).
So each few days I am cutting and splitting woods in small pieces for my fireplace.
Few 1-2h / day is more than enough.

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People around here have these splitter devices, but my brothers in law use your method.

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I prefer to use my bare hands.
Cap knows what I'm talking about. Lol.
https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-bb922fbaa26c1602361092f2372c0a73

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LOL no, not really like that 😂😂😂 that's insane, but funny.

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Lol. You should try it.
Its a good workout.

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I have an electric splitter too, but that one is only for hard vines wood, that is really hard to split manually.
Is more enjoyable with the ax, especially when is a sunny day, half naked in the sun, taking a sun bath and making exercise. Is really good for your health, you are expelling all the toxins from your body in just 1h.

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@darthcoin half naked in the sun, an ax and with a beer in both hand, wild.

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Maybe @orthwyrm should include this in his daily exercise routine. For every 10 push up, you have to crop up one piece of wood.

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I'd probably have to do it somewhere else. Don't think I can chop wood in a disabled toilet.

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Lmao. That got me cracking.

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You are a true renaissance man. I never anticipated I would get this much good info about splitting wood in the SN Saloon!

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There's not a cowboy alive that doesn't know how to split wood. Whether its with a axe, saw, chain saw, or bare hands, sn cowboys are built differently. We are what you would call, apex predators.

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Its strange how a small flame like that will consume that entire container filled with all those flammable material. I guess anything is possible.

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I can't be sure from the photo,but it would seem to be a challenge to split wood with that blade. Also, how is it fastened to the handle?

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I dunno neither, but locals here do it this way.😂

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Looks like they should be storming a medieval castle with that!

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Different ways to approach it: Airbnb, local rental sites, but the best way is knowing local friends and then ask if they know someone or something - yes, this is how things are being done in Turkey.!

A bit crazy at first, but having çay with people is one of the great problem-solving hacks 😂

Rain as sheets of lead
during my morning run. And
SPLASH! ‘Where drain cover?’

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You forgot your rain coat again, didn't you? Lol.

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Busted flat in Baton Rouge, waiting for a train
And I's feeling nearly as faded as my jeans

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Say hi to Bobby.

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McGee or Weir? Weir is still of your world. Pretty good run, all things considered.

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Indeed

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In my country, trains as a mode of transport are the worst. Hopefully you're not waiting for hours for your train. I'm glad I don't have to travel by train anymore.

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Based on my experience: unreliable and dangerous. This has been due to corruption and organized crime plaguing our country.

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We have something called mini bus taxis. They can transport 16 passengers at a time but most of the time the driver often overloads the taxi. This is considered the 2nd cheapest mode of transport after the train service.
https://blog.durbansouthtoyota.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/toyota-quantum.jpg

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Somewhat safe but reliable to be fair.

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If you're reading this, it means the future is still in tact. That means every second we are edging closer to a Bitcoin future. Hodl for dear life because I WILL NOT FIGHT THE FUTURE 🚀

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What's up, cowboys? It's officially Friday! We need an emoji: firing gun in the air: to celebrate the start of the weekend.

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Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa...it's the weekend!!!!!

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That’s a great idea! Visit the saloon during SNL.

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lol, is this @Car's second account? :)

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Wow I will try this, I like trying something new, it'd what makes life interesting.

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thanks me later 😋 so delicious!

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When I was a kid I used to drink fresh milk directly from the cow's tits.
Delicious and very healthy.
Indeed kaymak is excellent, I know it.
My grandma was doing the same as you explained and I always sneak into the room where she kept the milk over night and took all the kaymak.
I was something like this...

https://m.stacker.news/5161

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Ah childhood memories, funny when you think back it is some of you nest times in life but in some instances you thought it could be your last. I remember eating the inside of my uncles wedding cake out and just closing the whole again, I got a beating of my life but it was worth it the cake was 😋 delicious.

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Have you tried "Afyon kaymağı"? It is the number one "kaymak" 🤤

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the best kaymak I've tried are from this cow's mum 😂 haha

I guess generally the real good ones are made with fresh milk and from healthy and happy cows.

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No,no, no. You should try Afyon. Believe me.
It is not cow milk. Afyon is made from small buffalo or mandate milk.
Tastes very different.

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I used to keep trying different type of kaymaks when I was living in istanbul, but nothing beats the one I ate lately! 🙉

but okay, not sure did I try that or not, will keep it in mind:)

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Frijay. Snail is on its way.

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🐌 He's trying to get out of the house, but he's stuck !

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That would make him an easy target, if you ask me.

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I have been experiencing with solar power for the past few days: no sun, no hot water. 😂

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you edited the comment!

is Turkey or wherever you are, big on the solar power?

the area where I'm in: remote villages - yes, cities - no.

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