Do you support the Israeli-US war on Iran?
If so why?
If not why?
I support the Israeli-US war on Iran21.0%
I do not support the war on Iran79.0%
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Do you support the Israeli-US war on Iran?
If so why?
If not why?
I support it because I misclicked..
It's amazing how many people have been heavily drinking the Kool-Aid of state sponsored propaganda.
And most people here are into bitcoin... I can't even fathom how things are among the general populace.
Forget wars and focus on Mars!
You think there won't be wars on Mars if humans ever get there without sorting our shit out on planet earth ? ? ?
I think the longer this goes on, the greater the chance we see a nuclear weapon used in war since ww2. That likelihood increases daily. So, i do not support the war in Iran.
And who'd be using that weapon exactly?
Israel
Israel doctrine is clear they will only use them if they face extinction. It is clear this is not the case. Israel has no reason to use one plus they aren’t stupid and deployment would be nothing short of stupid.
Death to Americas and Israels war crimes machinery.
The Iranian doctrine was very clear too - the previous Iranian Supreme leader had issued a very clear prohibition upon the building of any nuclear weapon.
Then Israel and Trump killed him.
Trump and Netanyahu are war criminals.
What they have done is to both justify and motivate Iran to build nuclear weapons.
There's no reason to do that. Iran is no longer a nuclear threat and they have no issue with the Iranian people.
We shall see
How can any war be a good thing?
The 'Greater Israel' project proposes that military aggression is justified to achieve the allegedly God given boundaries of the state of Israel.
'Israeli Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich has suggested that Israel is destined to expand to include Jordan, and even beyond, to parts of Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, Egypt and even Iraq.
In a documentary film by Arte in 2024, Smotrich said “it is written that the future of Jerusalem is to expand to Damascus.
This view has support in some parts of Israeli society. Israel’s incursions into Jordan and Syria has intensified international concerns that some actors in Israel are pursuing expansion into other countries...
In August 2025, Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu said in an interview with Israeli TV channel i24News that he was on a "historic and spiritual mission" and that he is "very" attached to the vision of Greater Israel, which includes Palestinian areas and possibly also places that are part of Jordan, Egypt, Syria, and Lebanon.'
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Israel
Genesis.15.18
Regardless, the twelvers and their mullahs want nothing less than the destruction of any Jew who aspires to political self determination in the Land of Israel. This has nothing to do with any statement by smotrich. Strawman
Yes, I know about that. But how can someone consider it a good thing? I can't understand it
If they believe God has given them a right to that land then they believe they are entitled to it and that those people now living on and governing that land are inherently bad and standing in the way of Gods will.
Religion can make people crazy is the only way it makes sense to me.
When the purpose is for the greater good, to avoid a more serious conflict later, and if civillian casualties are kept to an absolute minimum. All wars are not equal.
many atrocities have been commited for the "greater good". I disagree, peace and dialogue must prevail always, when it's not the case military defense(but never offense) must be used.
Iran had been careful to not use weapons but as a defense, they could be attacking the US in their territory but they haven't.
So imagine a very serious and globally devastating conflict, let's just call it WW3. Would you not justify a limited conflict now if it reduces the likelihood of WW3? Or put another way, if you don't act now the death and destruction could be far greater in coming years. It's not pleasant, nobody wants war, but these are very real choices.
You're suggesting to act based on fear, making an agression on fear to create a supposed peace. It's nonsense. "What if this" "what if that"
You make it sound like there's only one person calling the shots when the reality is there's intelligence, military strategy, state departments who spend years monitoring potential threats and calculating risk. Their knowledge is far greater than yours, or mine, or any one president.
No intelligence and resources are above the truth or any principles. Then your advocating in favour of utilitarism not on priciples and what is the right thing to do.
You're not wrong but geopolitics can't usually be simplified down to just what's right and wrong. There's an incredible amount of nuance and gray areas. If the 'right' thing to do is, say, not act now, you could be putting your whole economy at risk and countless lives on the line. Should that come to pass in the years to come it would probably be deemed that you made the 'wrong' choice those years ago, and your 'no war' philosophy was ruthlessly taken advantage of by your adversaries who don't share those quandaries.
I largely support it because:
I don't support:
Very interesting, reasoned and balanced perspective. Thank you.
Yes, if true regime change to one subservient to western interests where US gains control over Irans oil results it would be a significant blow to Iran on top of the actions already taken against Venezuela and the panama canal.
However China is highly reliant upon both imports of energy from Iran and the other gulf states being the largest buyer of energy exports from most of them and in terms of exports to them.
Yes seeking self determination for Iran has been costly to Iranians.
The Iranian regime has been under attack from the US and its proxies ever since 1979. The Iraq invasion of Iran in 1980 which continued until 1988 with over 500,00 people being killed was fully backed by the US using the CIA operative Saddam Hussein.
Since Iraq failed to achieve Iran regime change US sanctions have crippled the Iran economy and the religious nature of the Iran government has restricted Iranians civil rights from a modern perspective- however support for the objective of achieving Irans self determination over the use of its resources and territory is still strong in much of the population.
Most other Gulf states are subservient to the USA economically and militarily.
If genuine regime change to a US subservient government is not achieved the resulting Iran government is almost certain to be even more dangerous to both US and Israeli interests- it is far more likely to actually proceed with building a nuclear weapon.
Interested in what your views are on the 'Greater Israel' project backed by some Israeli politicians which involves the expansion of Israeli territory to cover most of Palestine, Jordan, Syria, Iraq and much of Saudi Arabia.
The US didn't take action "against Venezuela." It took action against Maduro for Venezuela. Stop conflating these tiny groups of sickos with the entire country that they're exploiting. The communist party doesn't speak for China. You don't get to declare yourself emperor just by repeatedly slaughtering everyone who disagrees with you. In doing so you incur the wrath of God and his servant Donald Trump.
And the gulf states are not subservient to Western interests. Neither are Japan, the ROC, or South Korea. These are nations where a significant thoughtful majority genuinely aligns with US interests because they agree with us that the communist party's model of governance is a threat to humanity. That should be so much more humiliating to you than the opium wars, because that's multiple independent nations coming to the same conclusion through observation that the state of your homeland sucks so bad that you can't even pay them to like you.
And your Greater Israel meme is a deflection. Stop trying to appeal to my antisemitism. No one would know who Molech was if it weren't for American shitposters. Meme theft is a war crime.
I disagree Iran is far more likely to actually proceed with building a nuclear weapon if genuine regime change is not achieved. Their facilities have been destroyed and it's not like the US and Israel isn't watching everything they do from above.
I have literally never heard of the 'Greater Israel' project. Sounds weird.
The previous supreme leader who was killed in the initial attacks had issued a prohibition on construction of any nuclear weapons. That prohibition may not be continued by subsequent leaders. True the Iranians capacity to build these things will have been reduced but their motivation will not be.
I too only recently learned this 'Greater Israel' project and yes agree it sounds weird.
It seems there are religious extremists on both sides of the war.
Absolutely. This is a regime whose primary purpose is the destruction of Israel. Don't be fooled by the "Zionist" talk. They want to wipe out any Jews who aspire to self determination in the Holy Land
US hasn’t supported a conflict in totality since WWII everything since then have been operations
bingo! imagine we actually focused all of our power on Iran 😂 it would be like shooting fish in a barrel embarrassing.
It was a bad decision with little to gain.
I disagree. There's so much to gain from this for the west. Few see it. See my comment elsewhere here.
Fun fact: Trump helped trigger the biggest monthly spike in Brent crude on record: ~59% in March 2026.
That beat the previous record, ~46% in September 1990, after Iraq invaded Kuwait, by 13 percentage points, or about 28% larger on a relative basis.
https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/global-markets-view-europe-2026-03-30/
Unlike the 1990 spike, this one isn’t just a war premium.
It’s being driven by an ongoing supply disruption through Hormuz, which is why analysts still see upside from here.
dang…. oil was cheap as hell wasn’t it given that even with this spike we are dealing with $100+ a barrel oil. I vividly remember ‘08 when it was what almost $150 a barrel? We got room to run to get to that without factoring in inflation.
’08 China/EM demand was ripping, supply was tight, and financial flows piled into commodities.
Oil ran to ~$147… then collapsed to ~$30 when demand broke.
So yeah, there was “room to run”… until there wasn’t.
This setup is different.
Price is already >$100 with ~20% of global supply tied to an impaired chokepoint.
That’s flow risk, not excess demand.
“Room to run” only matters if the barrels can move.
If Hormuz stays constrained, price doesn’t just run.
It reprices higher, and it can stay there longer.
No.
Not really a case of supporting it or not. I'll just say if I was offered the choice between living in either the US or Israel...or Iran...well it's not a particularly hard choice.
So you are neutral on the war?
Or are you suggesting that US-Israeli wealth is in part derivative of its global military backed hegemony? . . . ie 'petrodollar' exceptional privilege.
To what extent are the wealth and freedoms of living in the US based on its global military backed hegemony?
I'm Canadian so a) our military is a monty python sketch and b) I'm not a military man myself so I'd defer to asking those involved or running the risk of getting a missile in the face if they support it or not and go with that.
I tend to follow the Lepard-esque view that if bitcoin was more widely adopted the powers that be wouldn't have the money to fund what end up being usually frivolous or pointless wars.
Sounds like you are neutral on the war or at least don't feel confident to venture a firm opinion on whether it is morally or otherwise right or wrong.
We can all imagine a different world where for example Bitcoin might change the underlying power dynamics but the one of the petrodollar in which we live right now is one where people are bombing and killing each other in what looks like a religious based conflict for regional if not global dominance.
The poll isn’t the signal. The gap is.
Public line: limited war.
Actual posture: more troops, more movement, more options being built.
That’s how escalation works. The mission expands before the language does.
And inside the force, the first sign usually isn’t open refusal. It’s people quietly starting to ask how far this is going and what their options are.
We’re not at collapse.
But we’re not at zero anymore either.
Yes. Fuck Iran.
They're Islamic nutjobs who are clearly trying to destroy Israel, e.g. by funding Oct 7th via Hamas, and they're clearly trying to get nuclear weapons. They've funded Islamic terrorism around the world, and are widely hated in the middle east for damn good reasons. Getting nuclear armed Islamic nutjobs is unacceptable.
They're also allies of Russia, and supplied the original shahed drones that terrorize Ukrainian cities every day, and they're still working with Russia on improving the design and manufacturing of them. I personally have seen dozens of those fucking things hitting Ukrainian cities, including attacks that killed civilians. Hell, I was nearly on one of the passenger trains that was recently attacked by shahed drones; here's a different one on display at the train museum at Kyiv's central train station:
I also have a video I took a few months ago of a shahed attacking that exact same train station. But video uploads seem to be broken right now.
Iran has also supplied Russia with other weapons, most notably hundreds of short range ballistic missiles and hundreds of thousands of artillery shells.
In the short term, it's not great that attacking Iran has pushed up oil prices: Russia obviously benefits from that. But Ukraine has done a good job of mitigating that problem with their recent successful drone attacks halting oil shipments out of Baltic sea ports. So I think the tradeoff is worth it.
My only criticism is that Trump (and the Republicans) should should formally declare war and actually finish the job properly. We don't need another bullshit peace treaty. The Iranian leadership, their supporters, and if necessary, their economy need to be entirely destroyed.
Are you aware of the historical context where the UK and the CIA removed the democratically elected government of Iran in 1953 because the Massadagh government had sought to nationalise the iranian oil industry?
The CIA and UK went on to install the Shah who then allowed UK (BP) and US oil companies to continue extracting Iranian oil until the 1979 revolution.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_Mosaddegh
The CIA also sponsored Saddam Hussein into power in Iraq from the 1960s onward and supported the Saddam Hussein led Iraqi government throughout the Iraqi 1980 invasion of Iran?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran-Iraq_War
Could this explain why the Iranian government is determined to assert Iranian sovereignty and not be a puppet and slave to US western resource hegemony?
Do nations not have the right to use their own resources in their own best interests?
Past mistakes are irrelevant. The present reality is Iran is run by a bunch of dangerous Islamic nutjobs who want to kill us.
Past actions have consequences.
The past actions of the US interfering with the sovereignty of other nations leave a residue of bitterness, anger and resentment.
The reactionary nature of the current Iranian government is testament to that.
Iran is happy to interfere with the sovereignty of other nations...
Again, this is irrelevant. They're a clear and immediate danger to us because of their extreme Islamic beliefs and work towards getting nuclear weapons. It is unacceptable to have nutjob islamists in power with nukes. Believing otherwise is suicidal.
Who can blame them for wanting nukes given the past incursions upon their sovereignty by the west?
If I was them I would want nukes yesterday- it ia the only thong that seems to give any chance of not being attacked by US...eg North Korea.
Or perhaps you believe The West has a God given right to resource hegemony over all other nations?
You're making excuses doe Islamic nut jobs.
Iran didn't need to fund Oct 7th to protect their sovereignty. But they did. Because they hate Jews, and the west in general.
CIA and UK did not need to remove the democratically elected government of Iran in 1953, but they did, nor did USA need to back Saddam Husseins invasion of Iran in 1980, but they did.
Own it.
You're such a hypocrite, New Zealander. Obviously you wouldn't take issue with the communist party attacking the sovereignty of the Republic of China. Why are you trying to appeal to self-determination like you never initiate wars or cheat at elections?
We can absolutely attack North Korea if we feel like it. Yes, God has commanded the US military to support a Japanese invasion of Beijing. Socialism deserves to be erased from history. The next global reserve currency is Bitcoin. Not Mao notes, not gold, not some UN-negotiated multinational currency, just clean American-mined Christian Bitcoin. No more taxation, no more slavery, no more overpaid Marxists yapping about Western imperialism. And absolutely no one is going to mourn the loss of Chinese communists when it's over. You'll be the meme evil villain in every piece of media for the next hundred years.
It was statists like yourself who decided that whoever wins a war gets to decide how to spend everyone else's money, so since those are the rules of the game, we have no choice but to win. Yes, China will be leading the 21st century, but not under your deranged failed interregnum.
"Fuck Iran"
"Past mistakes are irrelevant" — will that apply to Iran too, or just to holy America?
Fuck you petertodd and fuck israel.
I will write exactly like you did:
The zionist nutjobs who are clearly trying to destroy iran and all neighbour states.
This zionist apartheid regime has nuclear weapons but nobody is talking about it. This is the real crime here.
Iran had no ambition to go nuclear but now all free states are thinking about weapons of mass destruction because it is the only way to defend against an attacker wo is as radical as the zionist regime whos dictator is actually talking shit since 1990 about iran beiing 98% ready to build a bomb.
Israel is now supported by ukarine, a proxy dictatorship, with a dictator who is drug addicted and against elections.
They attack civilists in russia every day.
Ukraine is also a terrorist state that fights with terrorist attack even against countys who support them. like blowing up the german pipeline and blowing up pipelines for oil and gas from hungary and slovakia. So a zionist apartheid regime is working together with ukraine nazis to fight islamic influence over a region.
i hope iran builds nuclear weapons so this zionist regime stop attacking and killing people.
i also hope that the war in ukraine ends by a capitulation of the agressor (ukraine) who started the bloody war against east ukraine regions in 2014.
They lost, but are still fed and supported by the west only to kill as many slavic people as possible with terror drone attacks against east ukraine and russia.
only a uninformed retard can be a supporter of a bloody regime like israel.
No
Go and find jesus
https://youtu.be/cVythOLVvfc
maybe you will understand why the world hates israel.