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This doesn't split the network. It just means that any miners still mining blocks using the old rules will have their blocks orphaned by 55% of the hashrate. It is very unlikely that miners will take this risk.

If that's the expectation then it can be set at 95% too?

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I have not heard a convincing rationale as to why this would be better.

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Minimizing disruption?

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A 55% threshold will not cause disruption. Everyone will have plenty of time to upgrade.

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103 sats \ 20 replies \ @Murch 6 Jan

You do know that just repeating this claim like a mantra doesn’t actually make it so, right?

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If someone can argue coherently as to why it's wrong, I will change my mind. I have only heard incoherent FUD up until now.

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Incoherent FUD like this proposed guide?

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1 sat \ 17 replies \ @dathon_ohm 7 Jan -21 sats

Social consensus is overwhelmingly in favor of rejecting data storage as a use case, and BIP-110 is the best way to accomplish this. If someone finds a better way, I will withdraw BIP-110. Failing that, there is absolutely no reason to oppose BIP-110.

If 2016 blocks is plenty of time to upgrade, why not just have BIP 110 activate 2016 blocks from now?

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1 sat \ 10 replies \ @dathon_ohm 7 Jan -21 sats

You cannot be serious.

@remindme in 265 days

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Isn't it the case that waiting to activate until you see 95% of miners signalling reduces the likelihood of lengthy reorgs?

at 55% of miners, there are still a large chunk of miners who will be mining non-BIP-110 blocks. the 55% will have to reorg out these blocks every time they occur. This seems like it would be a pretty messy process and could go on for quite some time.

I would expect such a situation to result in very few people making any transactions at all, because confirmation becomes highly unreliable.

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"at 55% of miners, there are still a large chunk of miners who will be mining non-BIP-110 blocks"

This is a very dubious claim. Why would any miner waste money like this?

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10 sats \ 6 replies \ @dathon_ohm 6 Jan -21 sats

Remember, all miners have 2 weeks to upgrade once lock-in occurs, before their blocks will start being orphaned by the network.

If I run the BIP 110 rc2 will it enforce the new rules if anything less than 55% of miners are also running it?

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It will activate unconditionally on ~Sep 1, 2026 if miners do not signal readiness before then.

If the 55% threshold is reached sooner, then the new rules will activate sooner.

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1134 sats \ 15 replies \ @optimism 6 Jan

So the plan is to either convince x% of the miners in an epoch, which is why your threshold is so low, because you know you cannot make this less controversial than it is, and if you don't get that, then an economic nodes majority will kick in and your camp will just fork off on a chaintip with whatever miners you can convince that will then stop cooperating with the majority.

I must admit, we're going to learn a lot from this.

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1 sat \ 14 replies \ @dathon_ohm 6 Jan -21 sats

The threshold is lower than usual mostly to prevent malicious miners from vetoing the change, which we have seen with past miner-activated softfork attempts. If 55% of the hashpower is ready to change the rules, then there is no reason to wait any longer than that.