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The socialist housing plan for New York Citywww.youtube.com/watch?v=7KbGulTc4TY
695 sats \ 32 comments \ @SimpleStacker 11h econ
IMO, I would accept this compromise solution:
  • Freeze the rent for existing rent stabilized apartments (since that's what the commies want, and there are too many of them to argue against)
  • Deregulate zoning and allow developers to build freely on property that they own without the neighbors getting to hold it up
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65 sats \ 20 replies \ @Undisciplined 11h
I'd want some sort of legal guarantee that they can't just re-regulate those private properties, too.
In principle, though, I'm fine with compromises that involve increasing the maximum level of private property rights.
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91 sats \ 19 replies \ @SimpleStacker OP 11h
I want to make minarchism a popular term. I think it could catch on, since obviously capitalism (the word) isn't working for young people.
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30 sats \ 5 replies \ @Undisciplined 11h
It's been around for a long time. I think it's easier to sell young people on libertarianism, in general.
The first principles approach resonates best before people have formed a bunch of ad hoc rationalizations for all the government interventions.
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42 sats \ 4 replies \ @SimpleStacker OP 10h
I think the libertarian party has been around for too long in the US and thus the word libertarian has lots its power. Something new and edgy (especially the connection to "anarchism") may be attractive to some disaffected youth who'd otherwise look for solutions in communism
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0 sats \ 3 replies \ @Undisciplined 10h
Then don't pussyfoot around it. Just push real private property anarchism on the youth.
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42 sats \ 1 reply \ @SimpleStacker OP 10h
too scary for the normies
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10 sats \ 0 replies \ @Undisciplined 10h
The youth you should target will be ok with something provocative.
Normies are a waste of time. They'll just follow along once the people who matter are convinced.
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42 sats \ 0 replies \ @kepford 10h
Indeed.
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42 sats \ 12 replies \ @kepford 11h
I fear our descendants will have to learn the hard way about how amazing capitalism actually is by losing it.
Its weird how something responsible for so much good can be denegrated when government education and entertainment demonize it for 50+ years.
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42 sats \ 11 replies \ @Undisciplined 11h
My hope is that we can learn the lesson vicariously by watching Europe go over the cliff.
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42 sats \ 7 replies \ @kepford 11h
Hasn't worked yet. We saw the USSR.
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76 sats \ 6 replies \ @kepford 11h
Have my own theories about why that didn't work.
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0 sats \ 4 replies \ @Signal312 10h
What are they?
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42 sats \ 3 replies \ @kepford 10h
The short version. The victors (US) didn't believe that socialism was the primary reason the Soviet Union failed. They believe it was the USA. They don't actually believe socialism is completely rotten.
I say this because I have seen very little actual mainstream discussion of the failures of socialism. It was mostly about the US spending them into the ground. Not the failures of central planning. Many in government are socialists they just don't admit it.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Undisciplined 10h
I think Europe is pretty entrenched in our minds as a peer culture. It might seem less like it's happening to some alien culture.
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42 sats \ 2 replies \ @kepford 10h
Sounds like NYC will be a better example.
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42 sats \ 1 reply \ @SimpleStacker OP 9h
If NYC collapses they'll just find something else to blame
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Undisciplined 9h
Obviously they'll blame all the greedy capitalists who live there.
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10 sats \ 7 replies \ @redban 10h
sounds like a good plan to me. fuck'em greedy nyc landlords
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21 sats \ 3 replies \ @SimpleStacker OP 10h
Why don't you go build your own house to live in, or so that someone else can live in, rather than telling other people what to do?
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22 sats \ 2 replies \ @redban 10h
in my experience of 17 years dealing with landlords in nyc, i can tell you have no clue what you're talking about
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21 sats \ 1 reply \ @SimpleStacker OP 10h
You didn't answer my question
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Solomonsatoshi 5h
Yes they did. You dont know what you are talking about. Fuck the rentseeking landlords.
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0 sats \ 2 replies \ @kilianbuhn 5h
communist
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @Solomonsatoshi 5h
Libertarian moron. Sometimes free markets don't work. Especially when it comes to housing.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @keele 2h
Have you read The Road To Serfdom by Hayek? Anyone trying to convince me free markets aren't the best would have to make a compelling argument how Hayek is wrong. Because all I have ever seen is more central planning, more restrictions and more interventions and the outcome has been exactly as predicted by Hayek. Particularly hard resonates the point that people stop trying to improve their own lives by working and improving their skills and instead people become increasingly political.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Solomonsatoshi 5h
Crony Capitalism has failed. The mixed economy is the only credible solution. Its too complicated for some to understand, but intervention is required in some markets.
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @Sandman 6h
Capitalism isn't working for youth. Just wondering what generations coming will experience.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Solomonsatoshi 5h
CRONY capitalism is a disease that has infected the west since neoliberalism introduced it. The bankers took over nearly all western democracies. Ever since rents and house prices have escalated and productivity, infrastructure and manufacturing have steadily declined.
The mixed economy is ideal. Its hard for Libertarian extremists to understand but just look at Rare Earths and you might start to get it.
Free markets do NOT give the best results in some scenarios. In some scenarios government intervention gives the best result.
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