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Lions window is closed, Vikings take step back with JJ, Commies need to prove it. Beyond the Eagles, the entirety of the NFC is iffy.
Edit: Go Pack Go
10 sats \ 0 replies \ @Turdinthepunchbowl 6 Aug \ parent \ on: I’m no longer buying Bitcoin. bitcoin
With a job or a gig you are provided value/compensation for your efforts, can be in the form of BTC directly or Fiat that is then converted. Even in places of hyper inflation there are still fiat jobs that then people save in BTC. What you are simply referring to is being self employed more so then just only "earning in BTC". Again, my point is, based on your post, there is no fundamental difference between doing a job and earning BTC directly or earning a Fiat wage and converting your earnings by buying BTC with that wage.
Edit: Also, every person person currently alive will be dead by the time the last BTC is mined in 2140 or whatever. BTC is always available, it's just about what price in a Fiat currency you need to pay to get it. But again, BTC is a savings technology to save the value you create today for a future day, even if that value is 500 sats.
Sorry, but this is dumb. People "buying" Bitcoin are earning it... They are converting it from fiat earned...not sure the point of this post.
My take away after finally getting into the fold about all the noise.... Everyone wants to fight about every little thing... My life was as enjoyable before I found out about this as it is right now. Why, because I don't give a shit to fight for or against something so stupid. Most people involved or engaging all have a motive... Financial and/or attention... Stop giving it to them.
Dumb show about smart people... I can't stand it either. Much prefer the initial run of Arrested Development, a smart show about dumb people.
Thanks for the response. Here are my thoughts. Sorry for the long wall of text, hope it makes sense.
- from a household perspective, I envision a future where less people actually buy/own/maintain a household robot helper...instead you pay a company like a cleaner to come in and those are bots. Which while cool, would mean a smaller addressable market than a bot in every home which is the stated goal. Maybe I'm different and it's obviously one person account, I don't even want a Roomba vacuum or ring door bell, I'm probably not gonna want a human sized bot walking around haha.
1a) This addresses thoughts on point 1 and 3. From an industrial/commercial application, I think they are maybe way behind, and perhaps too broadly focused. Industrial process are highly specialized. You can't necessarily use the same hardware/software/AI to pick apples in a grove as you would manufacture things or auto sort/retrieve parts in a warehouse. There are large and established companies already in this space. Check out ABB out of Switzerland, Boston Dynamics, or even AutoStore an automated sort and retrieval for distribution. It's a crowded space with real life applications already in use. I don't pay too close attention, but I've only ever heard of Optimus and not other ambitions of Tesla robotics. If Optimus is it, then they may carve out a niche in household, but Boston Dynamics also has done some impressive humanoid robot things. Can't forget whatever the Chinese create either. So I'm of the opinion this is not the game changer for their valuation it's believed to be and maybe more difficult/crowded than you think.
- While it can never be exactly proven, a huge amount of Tesla valuation is tied to Musk himself. That premium gives them access to capital to do massive gambles like the cyber truck/cab/solar city/Optimus. But the shine is wearing off a bit with his behaviors and external focus (not just with DOGE, but SpaceX, Boring, xAI, etc). With revenues/profits shrinking, that Musk premium could reduce dramatically. I see the parallel to Steve Jobs, but there was a time the board would have ousted Jobs. That same control is not there as the board would never oust Musk. Tim Cook came in after Jobs and is as vanilla as it comes to keep the ship steady. Apple is also hugely profitable. Net income of like $95 billion with a PE ratio of 33. Tesla on the other hand net income last year was $7 billion with a PE ratio of 183. So I guess what I'm getting at it Tim Cook could take over from Jobs without issue because the valuation of Apple was not hugely tied to Jobs and the business was massively profitable, just needed a steady hand to keep the train going, didn't need new game changers to justify the valuation. Tesla is quite different from that where Musk is as much of the brand as the products, but the valuation needs game changing innovations to justify. So if Musk left, tons of that value is gone with it, and much of the things Musk developed outside of Tesla (Rockets/AI/etc) Tesla need to either lease from his other companies or will eventually need to pay/but those companies.
What makes you think the robot market is going to be larger for Tesla? Genuinely wish to know.
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Do you believe it's people wanting a robot helper in their household, or do you believe it's industrial applications that will drive that growth?
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Do you think the brand reputation changes that have impact on vehicle sales will not translate to future robotics business?
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What advantage do you believe Tesla will have in either of the markets (household/personal or commercial/industrial) vs competition?
I do wish to hear the case for it's valuation based on future potential growth.
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I'll be boycotting any company that prices based on profiling. I'm not a Delta customer, so this is easy. Take this as a warning United.
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