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10 sats \ 4 replies \ @Myshkin 14 Dec \ parent \ on: John Carvalho proposes BIP renaming sats as bitcoin bitcoin
I partially agree on what you said.
The idea whereby "who doesn't study profoundly bitcoin cannot be a true bitcoin user" is foolish at best. Do you understand profoundly how a car works? Do you understand so deeply chemistry to know how a specific drug is created in its details?
If you do know these things, still there are plenty of things you cannot understand. That's how constrained resources work and our attention is a constrained resource.
Bitcoin is a tool. I don't want to be an expert about something just to use proficiently the result of some experts' work. And this is how life goes about, believe it or not. Nobody is really going through the burdain of studing Mastering Bitcoin just to pay a coffee, so we need to make tools suitable for people to pay coffee even without being a technical user, which means also making the syntax suitable for their needs. Which, among other things, means also working a bit on the "marketing side" to make the bitcoin "brand" recognizable even at the fundamental unit level.
If we are so convinced that bitcoin is a tool for freedom and we believe it would be good for all humanity to adopt it, we cannot have the arrogance to say that the Crowd has the knowledge, time or resources to understand bitcoin. Realistically, 99.9999999% of people will not study it at the level of knowing that the protocol has no decimal places but only units.
Overall the proposal is not to "dumb things down for people"...John is not proposing a technical change, not proposing a consensus change, not even proposing to force anyone to adopt it.
The gist of the proposal is "Bitcoin has achieved some brand positioning with its bitcoin name, the protocol and the currency are easily recognizable basically by anyone now. Why can't we leverage that recognizability to name the basic unit after it?".
We go about crying that shitcoins get attention, but we don't want to work a bit on the Bitcoin branding to make it easier to grasp at the user level.
If we believe in the silly story that "you've to study at least 100 hours to be a true bitcoin user and I'm not going to create any compromise to make your life easier if you don't want to study it" then I don't know where we're headed.
A tool "for anyone" that is used only by 4 bastards is not "a tool for anyone" because nobody cares about it. Bitcoin shall became a tool "used by anyone", where users will have different levels of understanding of the topic. To make it "used by anyone" we need stupid-cuck-user-level communication. Which is also simplifying how we name stuff.
Based proposal. And also very practical. Forget the madness of explaining what a satoshi is vs what a bitcoin is. God, people are already confused by the nature of Bitcoin (and the difference between the currency and the protocol) that we don't need additional terminology.
Bitcoin and bitcoin is enough, I agree.
Also, nobody is really going to fatfinger 10 BTC if intending to send 10 bitcoin (the old 10 sats unit). C'mon.
I wish these poetic lines were mine XD
I have to say that Mr Chlebnikov was (and still is) a brilliant poet.
I consider it more a Bitcoin's accomplishment than one of mine. I just stacked sats throughout the years and c'est tout.
Let me come back to you into a few months and let's see then if the choice has been a good one. Overall bitcoin helps you to go full bitcon if you understand that "rebalancing the portfolio" is not wise. If you stack the sats and keep them, eventually you'll run into the bitcoin standard...that's a consequence of appreciation.
So this happened to me over time without even focusing on it.
BUT, but...I don't think it will be easy.
As the piece of Pasternak goes
life is not a walk across a field
And I don't expect the bitcoin standard as a walk across a field either.
yep, thanks for the sugestions, although I've been using Bitrefill since few months and btcmap.org for years.
I have to say though that using bitrefill is dangerous: I'm worried that eventually it will be shutdown or KYC required. I don't want to build my life on top of regulatory uncertainty.
Hard choices is not the right term...going full sats is am easy choice, rational.
The only issue is that fiat bridges are still needed to live a normal live...that's the damn tricky issue