100 sats \ 0 replies \ @Myshkin OP 26 Sep \ parent \ on: What's your persecution? meta
My persecution is not being as good as I thought I would be, to not reach goals. To leave earth dead but without leaving behind happiness. This keeps me moving forward.
I guess you already took a look at the loneliness discussion we had a couple of days ago, it's linked in the post.
I struggled, I'm struggling - and I probably will in the future - with this same issue. I'm generally risk adverse, I tend to be conservative, but the bitterness that solitude and regret trigger creates much more pain than the pain of rejection. I try to think about the matter in this terms.
How do you overcome that, if I may ask?
Is this question then follpwed by some specific action or is this a general worry?
The art of saying NO is definitely an attitude to master in life. We tend to think we can do a lot of stuff, fogetting that we can do anything, but not everything.
Thanks
Yep, when I experienced heavy loneliness I always gravitated towards bitterness, which is usually associated with regret feelings. I'm running away from it every day of my life ever since...that's one of the worst feelings a human being can ever experience, in my opinion.
I'm gradually understanding that relationships are a possibly th
e only game where you can improve the understanding of yourself no matter what the outcome is. I'm trying to work on it as of now, that's painful and I have to remind it to myself basically every 12 hours. But I know that's a better approach than the regret approach.
I've no expectations from any relationship, from anything for what matters. I feel that this approach is what drives me mental when I experience loneliness...no expectations make me feel like I've no route to follow. I prefer to expect stuff, even if it can lead to delusion.
Sadly, the saying
time in the market beats timing in the market
does not work when it comes to girls
I jumped on this post too late to engage into a discussion (I guess) but I steel feel the urge to write few lines about what reading means to me.
Since I was a child I always felt very attracted to stories, to ancient myths and legends. My father used to sing to me and my sister before going to bed, he used to sing some traditional songs from our region but also some more famous songs...songs of heroism, love, death, pride and sadness.
When I grew up a bit, I started reading a lot, particularly novels well suited for children and in those books I found again the stories I liked, the happiness and the sufferings that I experienced also in my real life as a young adult. And my peers always considered me a bit of a strange guy, never had true friends and never had that spicy stories that little boys used to have during those years.
Then came a dark period, where I convinced myself that I had to change my attitude, to start acting like a normal dude. Not even knowing what normality was...I just extrapolated a template for normality from the average school mate behaviour and then started acting accordingly. Several years went by and I can now say they were the worst years of my life. I lived a lot of situations, had friends, had parties, met girls. I never read a book in probably 6 years, I completely suppressed my soul just for the sake of being normal. It turned out that normnality is both intangible and overrated, everything came out nonsense and th result was a sharp increase of my bitterness in relationships.
I then understood that killing my tendencies, feelings, attitudes was the worst choice ever and from that moment on I started rediscovering what I was, what I am. This is not an easy task...undestanding yourself is difficult, but trying to extract again your soul from the ruins of lies is way more difficult.
I still am searching for that soul.
I'm now older (but younger than you expect, probably) and sometimes I feel that the years I dedicated to being someone else are the only years that I wasted, everything else was worth it, being it before that period or after it.
As long as it makes a better human being, it's worth it. Seeing life through the eyes of Raskolnikov, D'Artagnan, or the characters of Hemingway is enriching, it increases the domain of situations you're exposed to and gives you more tools - even practical tools, if you look close enough - to navigate through life.
I'll be forever grateful to literature for it, even though I've not been a good disciple.
Not particularly hard, just business as usual. I just wanted to get a few ideas from fellow bitcoiners. I consider this community as a very nice place to hang out for ideas about difficult matters like loneliness. I like SN feedbacks.
Love it. Seeing a smiling little girl with her momma today gave me exactly that feeling of happiness. The snowball effect that gratitude and love have is something I alywas underestimated, me being that kind of person that is never happy with what he has. I'm trying hard to change that, to not miss important shots of life.
Out of curiosity, do you have specific activities, rituals, books, ideas, films, quotes - whatever that is - that you use to remind yourself this things? It may be as stupid question, excuse me if so.
Appreciate your answer here, thanks a lot.
Sometimes small activities turn out to be very powerfull. I like reading, but that sometimes sends me straight to the realm of phisical loneliness for too long. Balance may be the real solution to that.
Thanks again.
Thanks Matteo for your answer, I may have a go with your app in the future (I'll be relocating soon). Sometimes we bury ourselves inside deep holes and we tell ourselves that it's the only place where we can stay safe, where we cannot be hurt by the others. What happens then is that we usually do more harm than good with that approach than what would happen if we were to embrace the pain of social relationships.
When I think about these things I always remember a short novel written by Dostoevskji that is called Notes from Underground. A man that burried himself in a narrow apartment to avoid relationships, and his bitterness as a consequence of that. I highly suggest it, but that's a painful reading,
I'm not aware of alone people that are part of real groups (by real I mean IRL)...any of us is alone in front of their PC, laptop or whatever when interacting with the Internet peers, this is not the field I measure my loneliness on.
Anyways, thanks for the suggestions and yes, that interests similarity research is what I'm working on at the moment.
Finding love and love someone it's hard work, and is not magic as they tell us on TV.
I guess I'm okay with this, never trusted TV or media anyways. I had the chance to do that hard work for people that turned out to be not worth it. And I must say that I've been the person who someone directed the hard work to, but i wasn't worth it. I understand both sides and I must say that that's a consuming game to play, but if you get the right chemistry the jackpot is extraordinary. A game worth playing.
I appreciate your practical answer.
You're right, among these options that's definitely the ranking I would state too. Overall I would add that, depending on the kind of person that you are, being alone could be a leverage for bad emotions and neuroticism. When you experience reality alone, there's no feedback from the ouside, from other humans for example. No feedback means that you build the feedback yourself, that can be too harsh.
Thanks for your message, appreciate it.