Its pretty wild that companies and government agency employees were using this incredibly insecure tool. Learned today that it literally emails chat logs in clear text...
So you use Signal just to email your conversations... wild.
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0 replies \ @kepford OP 15 May
This news reminded me I had a draft sitting on my computer I'd forgot to finish.
Don't Blame Signal: Humans Are Almost Always the Weak Link
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5 sats \ 6 replies \ @Car 15 May
Signal and Telegram are just deepstate 🍯why do you think so many Bitcoin/Crypto use it or coordinate around it.
IRL conversations only.
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100 sats \ 1 reply \ @kepford OP 15 May
Respectfully I disagree that Signal is deepstate. Its open source and the tech has been hammered one. This line of argument is exactly the same as the bitcoin is deepstate. If I believed this I would not be a bitcoiner. Massive amounts of encryption and protocols have the deepstate all over them. If they are open source and have enough eyes on them it doesn't matter. I see this raised over and over again and I think its missing the point of open source. Blind trust is foolish yes, but also guilt by association is as well.
Now, what is possible is that governments have been involved in both bitcoin and Signal. I suspect this is true for bitcoin and I know this is true for Signal. It doesn't matter.
But, the lesson is this. IRL conversations are more secure. Every message you send in Signal is a risk because you are trusting the other person and that their phone is not compromised. Signal is really not the issue. The phones themselves are the issue alone with humans. So I would never trust Signal with my life if I feared the US state or an actor operating on their behalf.
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5 sats \ 0 replies \ @Car 15 May
For the record Bitcoin was not created by the deep state, that is such a stupid narrative. I think we agree here.
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @kepford OP 15 May
Forgive me @Car, I should have just asked this first. Why do you think this?
This story actually counter evidence to this thesis.
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3 sats \ 0 replies \ @Car 15 May
When I first came into Bitcoin I was naive enough to believe you could have private conversations over signal and telegram. I could go into more detail but it is best to have this conversation IRL. Over time this been proven to be untrue, now I only have private conversations IRL all other async conversations are done via email and business slack. It's a better way to control the flow of information.
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @kepford OP 15 May
So are you saying the bitcoin/crypto world is just a deepstate op? That's what that statement sounds like to me. Are their bad actors. Yes, of course but it sounds like you are saying myself as well as you are deepstate.
Also. Telegram is a hacked together app using home-grown crypto. It is not respected by the cryptographers. Additionally it is not encrypted by default. I wouldn't mention it in the same sentence as Signal.
SimpleX is comparable to Signal. Even WhatsApp is, but if you ask me WhatsApp is the deep state compromised app due to its closed source.
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3 sats \ 0 replies \ @Car 15 May
Some of it yes. Gathering of information is the only other real currency to sell. Some are really good at it.
I do not use those apps anymore.
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