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Hang with me here. The title is a bit tongue in cheek but only a little bit. I doubt I'm alone in this but over the last few years at least a few times a week I will hear some conversation about inflation. The costs of whatever going up! A few years ago I realized that 99.9% of the time people are referring to price inflation not inflation. I've written about that on SN before. The short version is that classically inflation referred to an increase in the supply of money in circulation. Price increases are an effect of inflation. Not inflation. Inflation is the cause. Price increases are the effect. But, in practice when people talk about inflation they are really talking about prices of goods going up. Technically this would be referred to as price inflation. As I continue I will use the common term in the common way. I will refer to price inflation as just... inflation.
Now for therapy time. My lovely wife understands this topic. She's not a nerd about it like I am but she gets it. She works in a field where inflation is a massive factor. Real Estate. I often listen to Real Estate shows with her. Podcasts and radio shows. A while back I sat through a 45 minute show where the experts talked about prices and the reasons why property prices have increased so dramatically over the last 5 years. They literally talked about ever factor expect the most obvious one. The money supply has increased over 40% in the last 5 years. I swear my head feels like its going to explode.
I remember listening to Trump's debate with Biden when he talked about inflation and proceeded to blame the entire problem on Biden. I told my wife, dude presided over the largest money supply increase in history and is blaming Biden for inflation... its just too much.
When we watch an old movie or TV show I always point on the price of goods. Sometimes I go to the FED site and look at charts. I always find, yeah... pretty much lines up with the money supply. Once you see it, and get it the signs are everywhere. You can't unsee it. But, unless you are on Nostr or SN you will not hear anyone with any significant audience talk about monetary inflation. Inflation is always the fault of either government spending or corporate greed.
Government spending can expand the money supply and lead to price inflation of course but to me that is harder to see and prove. At least it can be said to be a factor. The low IQ answer of "corporate greed" is generally only coming from progressives. I say, low IQ because OBVIOUSLY corporate greed is ALWAYS a factor. Calling that an explanation for inflation is like blaming gravity for a plane crash.
So, our little support group here is an outlet where like-minded people can rant and rave and get it out of their system. Maybe we will reach some lost soul that looks at the world and thinks... yeah what they say on TV sounds like BS. There has to be another explanation.
So, do you identify with me? Do you actually hear people in the wild that get it? Or are you subjected to people just repeating the tired old explanations given by the suits on TV and politicians that NEVER bring up the bankers and their organization that curses us to live in the inflationary world where our only rescue is gambling on stocks, or real estate.
Thankfully we have bitcoin. Thankfully we have freedom tech and we can learn how the world works for ourselves. If Stacker.news is just a support group, its worth it to me. How do you feel about it?
I don't find Stacker News to be nearly as echo chamber-y as other social media, including the popular nostr clients.
Maybe we can think of Stacker News as more of a refuge for the "lost soul that looks at the world and thinks... yeah what they say on TV sounds like BS".
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I mean, a LITTLE BIT echo-chambery.
But at least here when people disagree with you, you get reasoned pushback -- not instablock or ad hominems
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There's a prevailing worldview, but you don't have to toe the line for people to interact with you or zap your work.
I feel like there's a fair amount of curiosity, which is pretty much the opposite of an echo chamber.
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Kiiiind of agree, yeah. But we dont have even remotely representative crowd here
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Name the place you do have a representative crowd. I mean one that has heterodox views also represented.
I write a post on the war in Ukraine and I get the standard main stream line as well as my own view and other views. I write about anarchism and I get all kinds of responses. I write about bitcoin and I get push back because I am not a big enough maxi.
That's my experience. On X it would be very different. Same goes for Bluecry or Facebag.
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True, very happy about all of that.
And nowhere I know of but this doesn't seem to cut it
Thank God!
I don't want average stackers. I want thoughtful and curious stackers.
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Yeah, I don't find it to be an echo chamber either. There is still quite a bit of diversity of opinion.
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Diversity in opinion is a boon. SN has healthy diversity unlike other places where you'll see people targeting each other with BS and often in a vulgar way. The difference between SN and them I found is that they are not aligned with an ultimate aim. On contrary to them, we here on SN are all Bitcoiners with a final aim to fix "The Broken Money".
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Yeah, it helps that we're all rowing in the same direction on at least one thing.
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we here on SN are all Bitcoiners
That's not true. I can tell you I've interacted with people that are NOT bitcoiners.
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Yupp! Beg your pardon. To amend it let's put in —Most of us here on SN are Bitcoiners.
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except you, the biggest shitcoiner
we here on SN are all Bitcoiners
EXCEPT YOU, THE BIGGEST LIAR AND SHITCOINER pretending to be a bitcoiner.
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Nah, I liken it more to a saloon out in the wild west. A place for people living on the frontier of civilized society to gather and share experiences and chill out. It just so happens that the frontier we're on is virtual rather than physical, and so is our hangout spot.
I once asked which group, cowboys, pirates, or ninjas (or other) best reflects the Bitcoin ethos (#738961), and the majority vote was for cowboy. So this wild west analogy of Stacker.News is proving surprising apt. @k00b nailed it with the metaphor.
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Yeah, the saloon analogy is a great one.
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Definitely a place I flee to when I've had enough of the nonsense.
I'm starting a meetup in my town so I can get more bitcoin vibes in my life
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That's great. In person relationships are the best. Building community is powerful.
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Working on it. I'd like to not rely at all on traditional social media, so that's been a challenge.
Hoping it leads to more organic interests and interest.
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Title alone got you some sats from me
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71 sats \ 2 replies \ @Car 19 Mar
ya atp if bitcoin/real world news doesn't hit stacker news, its likely not that important
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It is a good filter for sure
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Car 19 Mar
I just think of sn as my tribe so if something of interest of them should be tangentially something of interest to me as well.
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86 sats \ 0 replies \ @k00b 20 Mar
Built for autistic bitcoiners by autistic bitcoiners.
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Don't get yet drunk with water. We have enough people on SN that are looking only for NgU in Bitcoin and a lot of Trump ass kissers and other politicians. Statism is still at high levels on SN and on nostr.
Statism and fiat maximalism is the actual disease.
And lately many bitcoiners are in love with Tether... another giant oxymoron that is nothing else than an extension of the fiat system. It blows my mind seeing how some so called bitcoiners are supporting that crap. Is a fucking disease.
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oh asskissing. GIVE US MORE ASSKISSING, DARTH!
And Mr. Selgin is with yah... them freakin Bitcoiners and their government NgU BS! #918266
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Which bitcoiners... are in love with tether?
Statism and fiat maximalism is the actual disease.
For sure
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30 sats \ 0 replies \ @OT 19 Mar
I tried the other day to get this topic going with one of the Dad's. He just nodded a bit and the topic was quickly aborted.
I think more pain is needed to start understanding this more.
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Good post here. It’s cool to get the perspective of the core stackers on here. But to be 100% transparent I’m just here to zap!! Drain my nuts and sats because I was taught sharing is caring
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In my experience, if economics were a car, most people look at it and can tell it's a car. I can open the hood and tell you it has an engine, and then there's people on this site that would be closer to mechanics.
Honestly though, I rarely meet a person who even has the slightest idea of what's under the hood.
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Do you have move pictures of bitcoin. I need them for research...
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'The low IQ answer of "corporate greed" is generally only coming from progressives. I say, low IQ because OBVIOUSLY corporate greed is ALWAYS a factor. Calling that an explanation for inflation is like blaming gravity for a plane crash.'
Prior to the neoliberal deregulation of banking commercial banks were required to only finance productive purposes when they used their central bank backed privilege to issue new money into circulation when providing fractional reserve debt funding. Since the neoliberal deregulation that requirement was removed and so the corporate bankers moved to fund non productive purposes because they now could. Most of that non productive fiat debt monetary issuance (inflation in the true sense as you point out) is toward real estate- mostly residential housing- corporate bankers have become parasitic rentseekers by financing non productive real estate asset price inflation. At the same time they fund a lot less productive purposes because that harder and riskier than real estate financing and so the quid pro quo of fiat debt issuance that existed prior to neoliberalism is much reduced- the inflation in money supply caused by bankers fiat debt financing is much less compensated for by increased productivity.
Neoliberal deregulation enabled and empowered corporate bankers and speculators to misuse fiat debt funding monetary issuance and they quite predictably became parasitic rentseeking leeches upon the economies of the western world.
Libertarians as the new neoliberals don't seem to get this.
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I think they do get it. Banks are highly regulated and must seek state approval. An actual full reserve bank is not allowed to exist. Of course regulations have consequences butbcherry picking one regulation that was removed while many others remains is rather misleading.
Your whole point is valid but is NOT one I encounter much which is why I didn't bring it up. There are many other factors I also didn't bring up. Wasn't trying to be exhaustive.
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The one regulation I 'cherrypicked' is foundational and fundamental to the ethical, equitable and correct functioning of a fiat monetary system. The neoliberals removed it and created a massive inequity and misuse of fiat monetary issuance. This is destroying the wests economies. It is not just one regulation but one very important and central principle- if you are going to give private for profit banks the power to create increased money supply via fractional reserve banking fiat debt issuance you must make them earn it and compensate for the debase that occurs as a result- issuing funding for non productive purposes does not return any compensation to the economy and fiat money holders - whereas issuing funding to potentially productive purposes does.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @xz 14h
I do.
Bout inflation. That could also be caused be dilution of money, in the sense of decrease in fractional reserve requirements or debasement which effectively are the same thing, right? It's not just printing but also laxed lending requirements and debasement through softening of the hard money component. Guess I don't need to say that but just to support your point that all these shows talking around the main point is completely the problem.
This inlationary pressure causing price increases could also be due to just misallocation of capital, like spending your public finances on hosting more people to come and be benefit claimants instead of directing the capital to productive causes. I don't think this is entirely a western problem,if you look at housing markets globally. (Maybe the foreign population problem with misaligned cultural values is more western though, and why as a non-American I support what the current US administration is doing. It seriously needs to be done.)
As for SN as a release valve or knitting circle for hard money enthusiasts, yeah, there is a certain degree of nerdity. I also heard it said that it's not that interesting to some due to the limited scope through anchoring in Bitcoin. Personally, I don't have a problem with that.
I also don't have a problem that there is a likeness of minds and possible echo-chamber, simply, I don't have any need for media that just tries to gamify my experience or present all kinds of adjacent topics that I might be of interest, like everything that is tech, or every political and economic matter, macro or micro, local or global. These kind of sites are needed, or we just go back to some kiind of Reddit situation where you just engage with conversations in a few rooms of interest.
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probably mainly autistic bitcoiners and hard money economists - but also assmilkers with a dash of conspiracist thrown in for good measure
once you learn about money supply inflation, there's no un-seeing it
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