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What is Zapping for you on SN? Are you a Zapper?

1384 sats \ 41 comments \ @TheMorningStar 4 Dec meta

Not up for the debate but I shared this #792561 yesterday in the @saloon thinking that stackers might love to discuss about ⚡️zapping. There wasn't any response, no worries, I'm backing it with a post.

I may be wrong but I think It's the body and soul for SN. However, I'm seeing the number of zappers on SN have been receding in all throughout this year.

This isn't hidden. You can see it by looking into the details of top posts for every month in 2024. I did the same and used the custom filter to look into it. I'm not an analyst or someone very intelligent with data but I got a little carried away yesterday and today so I did it for all 11 months so far in 2024. Here are my observations (I stress I may be wrong)

January 2024

100+ Zappers Posts: #379225 which has 181 zappers. I didn't see any other post with 100+ zappers.
There are many posts with 50+ zappers. I'm putting as many as I can see in top 20 with zaprank. #395461 (93), #403662 (85), #392551 (95), #397764 (81), #385781 (75) #399604 (74) #404908 (69) #395797 (68) #406373 (65) #380977 (65) #401711 (55) #381674 (50) #403947 (58) There are many other posts with 50+ zappers in January.

February 2024

100+ Zappers Posts:
There's again only one post #423124 with 118 zappers.
There are still many posts with 50+ zappers, but pay attention to the brackets. #442313 (80) #441843 (71), #429517 (72), #423928 (61) #433943 (61) #421567 (57) #442904 (60)

March 2024

100+ Zappers Posts: There's none.
50+ Zappers Posts: #486283 (91) #481321 (91) #452688 (83), #444168 (78) #463065 (72) #480613 (69) #469058 (65), #454701 (65) #456221 (61)

April 2024

100+ Zappers Posts: There's none.
50+ Zappers Posts: #517368 (75), #496159 (70), #502409 (61), #495408 (52),

May 2024

100+ Zappers Posts: There's none.
50+ Zappers Posts: #529905 (71), #531610 (65), #556907 (60), #547441 (59), #545646 (55), #534139 (54), #541413 (52), #556754 (51),

June 2024

100+ Zappers Posts: There's none.
50+ Zappers Posts: #577322 (75), #569901 (64), #585367 (57),

July 2024

100+ Zappers Posts: There's none.
50+ Zappers Posts: #600187, #609498 (58), #593226 (58), #616665 (57), #620676 (56), #607431 (52),

August 2024

100+ Zappers Posts: There's none.
50+ Zappers Posts: #636091 (79), #640244 (58), #648845 (51),

September 2024

100+ Zappers Posts: There's none.
50+ Zappers Posts: #671978 (95)

October 2024

100+ Zappers Posts: There's none.
50+ Zappers Posts: #721770 (75), #737681 (55), #722833 (54),

November 2024

100+ Zappers Posts: There's none.
50+ Zappers Posts: #769572 (55),

Before I make any statement, let me clarify it once again that I'm no expert in Bitcoin, lightning, sats, journalism, media, politics or anything else. I'm a student with a college degree (which I hate) under my arm, nothing else.

There's only one thing that intrigued me to post this is my love for SN and the community that's truer than other places.

I even can't say if this is a worrying sign at all.

I don't want to say that the people I see here daily are the same because there are always some new people.

I can't say that all the people that I say can't zap a good post with 1 sat, why not it's allowed.

I also can't say why someone should zap anything or shouldn't because there are echoes making rounds about "Zap Wisely" but not telling what does that mean.

I can't say why do you care so much about someone else's sats (on the leaderboard).

I can't say why can't you just zap every top post daily with your precious 1 sat.

I can't say if there's no zapping on a platform which relies its existence on zapping.

Hell! I can't say a lot of other things but I want to save them for future. (When I'd be proven wrong).

BUT

I can say that I've been and I'll be zapping at least 10 sats to the top posts daily. (You can laugh at my poverty or make rounds about how precious 10 are!)

I can also say why I do this? I was just beginning with SN and commented this #630627 for the first time and I was surprised it recieved 54 sats from the OP.

I can also tell you that I normally asked a question with a post and I was surprised again because it got more than 1500 Sats.

And I can tell you that those two surprises made me a zapper.

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74 sats \ 18 replies \ @Undisciplined 4 Dec

If you look at the analytics page (link at the bottom of the page), you can see that stacking and spending have both been rising since June.

That's probably more important than numbers of spenders and stackers, because there have been changes aimed at reducing bots and spam.

Zap big. Zap often.

That's how this community can continue to thrive

52 sats \ 9 replies \ @TheMorningStar OP 4 Dec

Sir, I've seen the analytics and they are good.

I don't know how it's good when zappers are decreasing/disappearing.

Zap big. Zap often.

I agree. But it seems that only a few stackers are zapping (big or low) and the rest are just onlookers.

My question is why this number of zappers has drastically decreased?

Why can't we all zap small/big on all big (all top quality posts) posts? Where are all those stackers Who were zapping in January or February?

53 sats \ 8 replies \ @Undisciplined 4 Dec

They weren't real stackers. Many were bots and other accounts trying to game the rewards system.

A couple of months ago, the SN team increased the fee on zaps and those grifter accounts went away.

53 sats \ 7 replies \ @TheMorningStar OP 4 Dec

So, you mean 181 stackers who zapped on this #379225 were mostly grifters?

0 sats \ 6 replies \ @Undisciplined 4 Dec

I'm sure some of them were, but there are a couple of other factors to keep in mind.

The rewards system has changed over time. Zapping may have been more heavily rewarded back then. I don't remember exactly when it was, but there was a period where zapping was the only way to earn rewards.

Many stackers did leave after Million Sat Madness. That's why I emphasized what's happened since June.

503 sats \ 5 replies \ @TheMorningStar OP 4 Dec

The rewards system has changed over time. Zapping may have been more heavily rewarded back then.

Okay I get it a little bit. There were times when people zapped to earn rewards. But I think this is the same even now. Stackers earn rewards for zapping, I think.

But you've to agree that for some or the other reason stackers Who were zappers disappeared and this procession is continuously going on.

SN is such a great platform, I don't know why the entire world is still not here even after 3 years.

Zapping as I said is the soul of SN which we have to rely on for the success of SN. (I may be wrong).

10 sats \ 4 replies \ @Undisciplined 4 Dec

But you've to agree that for some or the other reason stackers Who were zappers disappeared and this procession is continuously going on.

I agree with the first part, but not the second. Since June, I don't think we've lost many zappers.

You do get rewarded for zapping now, but it was more than twice as much when they were running that experiment.

62 sats \ 3 replies \ @TheMorningStar OP 4 Dec

I get it. From June it seems thd median of zappers on top posts is about same. I can confirm it because I've seen the number of zappers on every top post since January this year.

Do you also think zapping is the soul of SN?

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30 sats \ 7 replies \ @DarthCoin 4 Dec

Zap big. Zap often.

That means you are feeding the assmilkers that rely on SN daily rewards.

115 sats \ 6 replies \ @Undisciplined 4 Dec

False. I'm encouraging people to support good content, of which there's usually plenty.

43 sats \ 5 replies \ @DarthCoin 4 Dec

Remove leaderboard and daily SN pool rewards and let's see if you continue zapping... the assmilkers.

110 sats \ 4 replies \ @Undisciplined 4 Dec

Since I was zapping before there was a leaderboard and when it wasn't rewarded, the odds are pretty good that I would continue.

Getting rid of rewards would be a huge mistake and not likely to happen. Incentivizing zapping is why things get zapped so much more here than on nostr and why we get such better content.

We can ignore, downzap, and mute the ass-milkers and they'll go away on their own.

17 sats \ 1 reply \ @DarthCoin 4 Dec

As I always said: one thing is to GIVE to somebody some sats as a reward, because you really want it and they deserve it... and another thing is to zap continuously whatever post, just to be ranked in a stupid leaderboard that in the end of the day you get some other sats from people that paid to post.

I am refusing to post more things because that way the sats paid to post are going to assmilkers gaming the leaderboard. I prefer to just comment and give sats only to specific stackers or even going back few days and zap them so will not be reflected in the daily ranks.

Why? Because I want separate zaps sats than upvotes for ranking. The amount of sats is ONLY a personal appreciation to OP not to gain ranks. But many are abusing this, thinking that will earn more sats from daily rewards. Zaps/sats must be separate than ranks/upvotes.

110 sats \ 0 replies \ @Undisciplined 4 Dec

We can have different visions for SN. I don't see the point of adding cheap talk into the system. Costly signals are part of what makes SN special.

Btw, comment fees also go into the rewards pool. You either have to come to terms with the system in place, leave, or just abuse the freebie system.

32 sats \ 1 reply \ @zapsammy 4 Dec

i think it's reasonable to give the parasites a sat-fast: a surprise week with no rewards, once a month or so, and see how this affects the quality of posts. intermittent fasting eliminates parasites and cancer too.

10 sats \ 0 replies \ @Undisciplined 4 Dec

Good point, good analogy, and good idea.

I like these sorts of experiments. The devs still have lots to learn about how all these mechanisms play out in practice.

31 sats \ 1 reply \ @Golu 4 Dec

I zap without thinking too much especially the notifications I get.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @TheMorningStar OP 5 Dec

Same here. I also zap too frequently to the notifications.

20 sats \ 1 reply \ @IamSINGLE 4 Dec

I'm freely zapping. It's kinda shared love. What you give, you get back more.

10 sats \ 0 replies \ @TheMorningStar OP 5 Dec

Shared love! The best thing that zapping leads to.

10 sats \ 1 reply \ @Coinsreporter 5 Dec

I think SN needs more adoption and that's what the whole summary of this.

20 sats \ 0 replies \ @TheMorningStar OP 5 Dec

Yes, I also think it's the whole point.

10 sats \ 1 reply \ @Satosora 4 Dec

Even though you look at the analytics, I believe good posts will always attract attention. Especially posts that are different and are higher quality.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @TheMorningStar OP 5 Dec

Im not saying that they wont attract attention. The difference in the number of zappers is quite visible now from Jan 2024.

10 sats \ 1 reply \ @DesertDave 4 Dec

I love zapping. I do not zap wisely at all..I do whatever I like. I know that everything I give comes back to me. So I have no fear. I used to try and get up the leaderboard by predicting what would be top. Now I just zap what I feel like zapping. I have no system. I don't keep track of anything. 11 is my minimum and I enjoy the turbo zaps feature. Let us keep the energy flowing. Zap away! Great post. Thank you.

11 sats \ 0 replies \ @TheMorningStar OP 5 Dec

Thanks. I'm quite the same as you. Only my min. Zap is 10.

10 sats \ 3 replies \ @Aardvark 4 Dec

I just zap everything that I find to be interesting or helpful. Anywhere from 10-100 sats depending on how interesting or helpful it is. I zap pretty freely, I don't think about it too much.

32 sats \ 2 replies \ @TheMorningStar OP 4 Dec

Why do you do so? You like pressing the zap button? Or, you do it for something else?

The real question is - why are zappers (like you) necessary for SN?

53 sats \ 1 reply \ @Aardvark 4 Dec

I do it because this is a community. I like it when people zap me, so I zap other people. I don't know if it's necessary or not, but I enjoy it.

32 sats \ 0 replies \ @TheMorningStar OP 4 Dec

The same here. Thanks. I'm more in the league of zap everything. I only pay attention to what is interesting, engaging, v4v, sometimes funny.

21 sats \ 7 replies \ @DarthCoin 4 Dec

63 sats \ 6 replies \ @TheMorningStar OP 4 Dec

Sir this is not something which we don't know. I've paid 202 sats to post this.

I think you should read the post to understand what I want to say.

It's not about "Post to Earn" for sure. I'm sorry but I can't say you're not correct because you're the one who's always correct.

21 sats \ 5 replies \ @DarthCoin 4 Dec

I've paid 202 sats to post this.

Yes indeed. I appreciate that.As I always said: the leaderboard is rigged or even meaningless. And should be removed totally as I proposed here: #792730

zapping as anon is meaningless, it only send some sats to OP anonymously, it doesn't do anything else
zapping few sats to get on the leaderboard is also meaningless, and only creates assmilkers
zapping p2p must be shown separately from upvotes. Only like that people will appreciate the sats and really will zap content that matter

SN rewards today became a joke...

21 sats \ 4 replies \ @TheMorningStar OP 4 Dec

Sir, I can't say anything about SN Rewards. It's too complicated or it's out of my understanding.

I want to just know where are the stackers that were zapping quality posts in January and February but not now?

0 sats \ 3 replies \ @DarthCoin 4 Dec

It's simple and I was always screaming out loud here for months. But (almost) nobody wants to listen to my warnings.

SN is plagued now by assmilkers and shitcoiners trying to get as much sats as they can from gullible users.

SN devs are busy with other issues related to so called p2p zaps and wallets instead of fixing this plague. When p2p zaps were not an urgent thing nor necessarily.

So, smart stackers are just waiting for new changes and do not throw valuable sats into the assmilkers pockets. If you zap more, post more, the sats goes to SN pool, that means into assmilkers pockets.

Capisci alora ?

74 sats \ 2 replies \ @TheMorningStar OP 4 Dec

I understand that zapping real sats is something that's what makes SN unique. Zappers are also unique breed. Shouldn't a post as good as this #783887 be acknowledged by as many bitcoiners as there may be.

My concern is: Are there only 40 stackers with the capacity of zapping on SN now?

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @DarthCoin 4 Dec

zappers capacity fluctuate over time. Also when are only shity posts generated by shitGPT and/or copy paste articles, even if you want to zap, your brain (if it function properly) will say "don't zap this garbage". Only gullible stackers will zap thinking that a zap of 10-100 sats will put them on the leaderboard to earn next day some sats from the SN pool. Pathetic assmilkers.

21 sats \ 0 replies \ @TheMorningStar OP 4 Dec

zappers capacity fluctuate over time.

I'm worried about the number not the capacity.

Why were there so many zappers in Jan 2024 and now we see only 1/4 of them on the top posts. The top posts are crying even to get 50 zappers these days. Does that mean SN only have 50 or less number of real people?

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