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124 sats \ 15 replies \ @grayruby 24 Sep \ parent \ on: Peter Todd - warmonger shill! bitcoin
So your position is if Europe and US stopped funding this proxy war that there would not be a negotiated peace and instead Russian would just roll through Ukraine and steal all their resources?
That's one way of looking at it. I am skeptical but I respect your right to have an opinion. I respect your right to fund whoever and whatever projects you want for whatever reasons and if you want to simp for politicians that's on you but in my opinion it's a bad look.
"Funding this proxy war"
Good riddance man... The initial invasion in 2014 wasn't funded by the US or EU. Quite the opposite: Ukraine got fuck all help and had to fund their own defense all by themselves. It was only the truly heroic efforts of the Ukrainian military that managed to pause the invasion for a few more years.
Russia invaded precisely because this wasn't a proxy fight.
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We aren't living in 2014 Peter. This is most definitely a proxy war. Whether it started that way or not doesn't change that fact.
You have made your point. You have said "good riddance". So let's just end this discussion cordially. I am sure we both have better things to do.
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"We aren't living in 2014"
The war has been continuous since 2014. The entire time Russia has been pushing to invade more territory, with continuous fighting every single day.
If your argument is that it is now a "proxy war" simply because other countries decided to help Ukraine, you're arguing that no-one deserves to be helped with a defense.
Is it a "proxy war" if the police show up after you report that a gang is trying to invade your home? Is it a "proxy war" if I give a woman cash to buy a gun after someone attempts to rape her?
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please go back to your CIA office
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So let's just end this discussion cordially.
Never be nice with warmongers...
As you know, I survived 20 years of communist regime, with a lot of of influence from USSR (soviet union) but I never let the guard down.
What is doing Per now is exactly the same tactics were doing the communist propaganda in those days, They just want to play with words and your mind.
NEVER LET THEM WIN. THEY ARE MASTERS IN DECEIVING.
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why do you always feel the need to dictate what others should do or say? reply
Because:
- in this case, I am a survivor of communist regime for more than 20 years, things that Peter cannot comprehend.
- Darth is always right, don't you get it yet? How many times I have to be right?
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"Darth is always right"
Do you have an actual argument? Or are you just saying stuff?
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@remindme in 1 year
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"communist propaganda"
The aggressor here is Russia, who is invading a country – Ukraine – that chose to leave the Soviet Union, and thus Communism.
It's Russia who is trying to hold onto USSR bullshit. Hell, Russian units frequently use hammer and sickle flags.
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You cannot understand what is russian oppression because you didn't live it, I did. Many years.
Stop being a propagandist to those that lived a real propaganda.
It simply do not work on me. Maybe on other clueless normies but not on people that really survived communism.
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So what are you claiming here? Do you think Ukraine is the successor to the USSR? Do you think Ukraine is communist?
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No. Ukraine is just a puppet for US regime...
Step out of the propaganda.
Be a real bitcoiner that do not take sides FFS!
YOU ARE BEING PLAYED OR YOU ARE A FUCKING CIA ASSET.
It's that simple.
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"do not take sides"
So when a "real bitcoiner" sees someone trying to rape a women, I shouldn't take sides? What about if it's a murder attempt? Or a bunch of thugs rolling into a town on tanks, trying to rape, murder, and steal?
Am I supposed to always just stand back and let things play out? Am I unable to form an opinion about right and wrong?
Is there right and wrong? Good and evil?