203 sats \ 24 replies \ @kepford 27 Jun \ on: What would you do without the internet? What would your life be like? tech
Before I went into programming I worked in construction and many physical labor jobs. I learned enough skills that I could probably become an electrician or plumber in a short time if I decided to today. Practically and financially that's probably what I would have done. I know many in the software engineering field like to think of us as being scientists. Some are for sure, but most of what I have done over the years is closer to a skilled trade than doing science. And despite the culture of the day that looks down on skilled trades as less respectable they can be quite rewarding and lucrative.
But if I were to go back and just go for something I think I might give music or stand up comedy a go.
I know many in the software engineering field like to think of us as being scientists.
Engineers are more mechanic or architect than scientist. Of course engineering is very specialized so fields will differ slightly
Any software engineer who calls himself a scientist is already insufferable
Try finding a window repair man in Southern California right now. 4 weeks for earliest appointment
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I remember learning years ago that if I could show up on time sober and not lie or steal I'd be at the top of most labor jobs. Our society is screwed up. Entitled and depressed. We need people that can fix our stuff. We need to respect people. For several years I worked as the tech guy for training programs that trained teachers in the skilled trades. Its ridiculous how everyone is pushed to universities vs. what they are suited for. Trades are needed and should be respected but instead are treated like fast food work culturally. Its absurd. I think there is hope it will change. Mike Roe is a great advocate and has influenced many in a positive direction.
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Trades are needed and should be respected but instead are treated like fast food work culturally.
I don't know how to explain knowing some of the tradesmen spent years mastering one skill yet not even earning what they deserved.
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Skilled trades pay quite well in the US. The biggest issue I continue to hear is there are not enough people going into them. It is stupid and shows the power of propaganda and stigma.
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I guess it's supply and demand:)
The biggest issue I continue to hear is there are not enough people going into them.
interesting, here is the same, but due to these trades not making much money anymore.
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Too many teenagers are going to college
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The ROI doesn't make sense for everyone to go. It never did and it sure doesn't today. That was never the idea. Its a rigged system. That's not to mention the quality and cost being insanely off.
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College tuition is out of control.
Student loans are a racket.
Regarding loan forgiveness, the colleges should pay for forgiveness not the taxpayers
My last student loan payment will be in 2025. I didn’t pay off early because of the low interest rate
Welders can make a nice living especially in Texas
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I grew up without the Internet. This world is not one I find hard to imagine. Even with all the problems that the Internet has contributed to I wouldn't turn the clock back. I think humans just need to learn how to handle everyone being connected. Nostalgia is seductive but also deceptive. The grass is always greener. There is no way but forward. This is a great time to be alive. We are simply far more aware of how much evil is in the world. What crazy things people believe, and how much of what we know is based on lies. We are still learning how to deal with all this. Its a lot to figure out. Most people still believe the answer to our problems is to vote every few years and try to use force to make others live their lives the way we think they should. We have a long way to go.
Peace. Keep your heads up. There's a lot to be grateful for. Stay humble, stack sats. I have to remind myself of these things pretty much every day. Focus on moving forward. Focus on what I can control. Be grateful I have what I have and work to make the world I exist in a bit better.
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Well said. Agreed.
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