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  1. Indeed you can see black holes as regions in space time we don’t understand. Or understand very little of, due to its nature of not giving out information.
  2. That being said, it is known that they are massive centers of mass, so we know why we don’t know: their gravitational pull is so strong no light escapes and all is crushed inside it.
  3. Under such circumstances, I do find it doubtful that matter can organize itself at all, much less be formed into bodies of living beings… so… whatever’s in there, advanced civs aren’t it. Doesn’t rule out other much more extraordinary possibilities, but hard to say
  4. Current evidence does suggest it’s most likely we’re just dealing with collapsed stars rather than artificially made constructs
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Thanks for this...
I totally have #1 down :)
#2 - I also understand the math points to them been super massive centers of mass but if we don't know what is happening inside can we really say "all is crushed inside it?" I guess I have heard that the center may move around inside? so I just find myself wondering could the "event horizon" be more of a "barrier" or "line in the space/time" fabric? I mean if something could control gravity to pull something towards it couldn't it also operate in the opposite manner and push things away...such as pushing a sphere of gravity particles in a gravity wave both away and towards creating the appearance of something with a ring or spherical shape?
#3- I would certainly agree that if the current theory of a black hole is proven - it is highly unlikely something/matter/information could organize inside - that is a concept that is even more difficult to think about...I think my thought is crazy enough :)
#4 - I am going to have to look for this evidence... I am sure the equations are out there somewhere of how a star collapsing could in fact turn into something that starts sucking in everything around it but it just seems so weird to me that something like the supermassive space at the center of our own galaxy could have the grown to the size it is theorized to be through just being? Just thinking about if our own star somehow could go through that transition ...it just seems like more of a stretch to me that this is a "natural" occurrence (space/time folding in on itself) and seems it could have some other cause?
Again - I freely admit to not having done the "work" to fully understand the equations behind all the current theories but it does suck me in every time I here people discussing it...I really missed my calling and should have gone into theoretical astro-physics or something....
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