Stacker Saloon \ stacker news

114 comments \ @saloon 30 Dec 2023 \ yesterday

Howdy there, partner! Welcome on into the Stacker Saloon.

Saddle on up to a stool and spill the beans about your day, fire away with them questions, or let loose and give us the lowdown on your wild and woolly life. We're all ears, so don't hold back!

We're open round the clock, so mosey on in whenever you please!

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @k00b 31 Dec 2023

On the weekends I try to spend time coding outside. I used to mostly code outside recognizing I was more alert in a peaceful way in the sun.

150 sats \ 1 reply \ @gmd 31 Dec 2023

Anyone know why the price spread on Strike is so high?

They advertise no purchasing fees and yet the buy price is always a few hundred dollars higher than the current market price...

99 sats \ 0 replies \ @BitcoinIsTheFuture 31 Dec 2023

No purchasing fees on other platforms means the selling price is higher, you pay regardless.

21 sats \ 3 replies \ @ek 30 Dec 2023

Just realized that my obsessive edit disorder might be related to the culture at my previous company.

During onboarding, there was a section in Notion that explained the culture at the company. In this section, it was mentioned that editing of comments is welcomed and even encouraged. It said something along these lines iirc:

"If you think you can rephrase something in a better way, do it. We welcome editing. We won't see it as you trying to hide mistakes but as you willing to acknowledge your mistakes and correct them. It's always better to rephrase something if you think that gets your point across better."

I think that's when I started to edit absolutely everything if I had the chance to and thought it might improve my comment, lol

But I'm not saying this in a bad way. I think it's a good habit I learned. If I have to say one good thing about my previous company, it was how we organized async communication. Everyone respected each other's time. Basically, we lived and breathed the spirit of Don't ask to ask, just ask. We also used Geekbot for async daily "standups" very effectively and efficiently.

/cc @WeAreAllSatoshi @elvismercury

479 sats \ 2 replies \ @elvismercury 30 Dec 2023

I'm a big fan of tweaking, iterating, editing. I don't see anything sinister in it. Trying to think clearly enough to express yourself well is a virtue.

228 sats \ 1 reply \ @ek 30 Dec 2023 freebie

I should have hashed what I thought you're going to reply and included the hash in my comment.

Because that's very similar to what I thought you would write and the reason I put you into CC to check :)

This is also related to deleting comments for me though. In the past, I saw deleting comments as hiding mistakes. But now I see it more as acknowledging mistakes. Not sure if that makes a lot of sense though. Since I am still hiding the mistake from future readers.

498 sats \ 0 replies \ @elvismercury 30 Dec 2023

Haha, well, nobody would dispute your prediction even without the hash, I'm too predictable.

1005 sats \ 9 replies \ @gnilma 30 Dec 2023 freebie

So I just listened to McCormack's interview with Fran Finney. The guy is still using Ledger as a sponsor...smh... But this comment is not about that.

I had a thought after listening to the podcast. I was thinking of forming a Stacker News team on Fran's fundraiser site and help fundraise for the cause. But before I do that, I want to see if there is interest in the community in forming the team, because I would rather just make a personal donation if I will be the only person on that team.

What better place to ask than the Saloon? Also, if someone "official" like @koob, @kr, or @ekzyis would like to form this team and run the fundraiser, I'm happy to just join the team and donate my sats.

I'm personally committed to donate 1102009 sats, because the legendary running bitcoin tweet was posted on Jan 10, 2009.

So yea, stackers, let me know if you guys would be interested in joining this team and I'll create the team if I see enough interest.

21 sats \ 0 replies \ @orthwyrm 31 Dec 2023

Ah yes, the curse of WBD sponsors continues: BlockFi, Compass Mining, Gemini Earn, Ledger...

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @davidw 30 Dec 2023

I’ll be running. So would love to join the cowboy team.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @gmd 30 Dec 2023

ALS is suck a fucked up disease... it's so depressing to work with these patients.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @carlosfandango 30 Dec 2023

Happy to support

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @siggy47 30 Dec 2023

Great idea! I'm in.

242 sats \ 0 replies \ @BitcoinIsTheFuture 31 Dec 2023

Great life’s and cause, I’m a runner, I’m in!

0 sats \ 2 replies \ @ek 30 Dec 2023 freebie

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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @PRA3S3NT1A 30 Dec 2023

CASUAL MEETING WITH MAXIS

99 sats \ 5 replies \ @k00b 30 Dec 2023

One of my neighbors is an aspiring EDM artist judging from the sporadic bass we get from a few a houses away.

479 sats \ 4 replies \ @gmd 30 Dec 2023 freebie

AirBnB shituation is gone?

99 sats \ 3 replies \ @k00b 30 Dec 2023

Shituation resolved. There are still two airbnbs on my street lol. Just no party ones.

The EDMer isn't nearly as bad as the AirBnB and at least they're producing something.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @gmd 31 Dec 2023

If it's loud enough for you to hear I'm guess the direct neighbors of your EDMer might disagree haha

334 sats \ 1 reply \ @ek 30 Dec 2023

Resolved by moving away iirc?

334 sats \ 0 replies \ @k00b 30 Dec 2023

yas I moved

50 sats \ 0 replies \ @grayruby 30 Dec 2023

Howdy!

374 sats \ 1 reply \ @jakoyoh629 30 Dec 2023

https://i.ibb.co/0Qd2GCq/gdthhfth.jpg

282 sats \ 0 replies \ @Undisciplined 30 Dec 2023

Sure, but it's 95% barren waste land, so that cuts down on the time a little.

10 sats \ 0 replies \ @Car 30 Dec 2023

costco is popping today

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @premitive1 30 Dec 2023

Another slow Saturday! almost noon eastern USA and only 75 comments!

331 sats \ 4 replies \ @ek 30 Dec 2023 freebie

That moment when you see people zapping your posts in real time via push notifications.

I just tried to swipe away some push notifications on my phone about your post stacked X sats but they just kept popping up again. Then I realized someone is currently, in this moment, zapping these posts with individual zaps and I got interested how high this number will go, lol

276 sats \ 3 replies \ @Undisciplined 30 Dec 2023

I've noticed a slight delay between when sats add to my wallet and when the push notification shows up. It's just a little signal that I sometimes catch in my peripheral vision.

286 sats \ 2 replies \ @ek 30 Dec 2023

iOS? I used Firefox yesterday (I usually use Brave which is based on Chromium) and I noticed that push notifications there arrive really fast. So fast, I was shocked how used I got to the speed of push notifications on Brave (they use a push service from Google). I didn't think that push notifications could arrive that much faster.

276 sats \ 1 reply \ @Undisciplined 30 Dec 2023

I think you can see it on Brave. You might notice your balance change a second or two before you get the notification that someone zapped you.

286 sats \ 0 replies \ @ek 30 Dec 2023 freebie

Ah yes, I think I just did notice. We poll for an balance update (among other things) every second. So I guess sometimes, the timing is fortunate and the poll actually gets a faster response than the push notification arriving at your device since it goes through an additional hop before it arrives at your device.

5 sats \ 1 reply \ @WeAreAllSatoshi 30 Dec 2023

Day 12 of posting mining earnings from the day before: 819 sats on 29Dec2023! Running total: 9,928 sats!

Yesterday's comment

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @WeAreAllSatoshi 31 Dec 2023

Day 13's comment

90 sats \ 1 reply \ @BitcoinIsTheFuture 30 Dec 2023

Feeling blessed for an amazing day and that I fell down the Bitcoin rabbit hole. It’s changed my life positively in many ways, just not financially yet, but in time!

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Natalia 30 Dec 2023

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47 sats \ 0 replies \ @chungkingexpress 30 Dec 2023

🎧 Latest episode is out: High Fees, Rough Consensus, and Bitcoin Self-Custody with Brandon Bucher

Brandon Bucher is a Bitcoiner based in New Zealand working on several Bitcoin-related projects and an important figure in the local Kiwi Bitcoin community. We zoom out to discuss the recent high on-chain transaction fees, and what we can expect from discussions about scaling solutions moving forward. We talk about how rough consensus works for making changes to Bitcoin and what the situation was like during the period of the Blocksize Wars and SegWit activation from 2015 to 2017.

22 sats \ 0 replies \ @JerryGarcia 30 Dec 2023

Look out of any window Any morning, any evening, any day Maybe the sun is shining Birds are winging or rain is falling from a heavy sky

123 sats \ 6 replies \ @Lux 30 Dec 2023

"Heaven knows how to put a proper price upon its goods; and it would be strange indeed if so celestial an article as freedom should not be highly rated."

-Thomas Paine https://www.losthorizons.com/

0 sats \ 5 replies \ @Natalia 30 Dec 2023

new year is coming! starts with bring a red pen with me:)

0 sats \ 4 replies \ @Lux 30 Dec 2023

good for the red pen, explore also the golden color. fun fact: new year begins at the end of winter, on 1st of april

0 sats \ 3 replies \ @Natalia 30 Dec 2023 freebie

oh, and another fun fact, I don't really celebrate new years 😂🤓 I prefer celebrating something with personal meanings:)!

201 sats \ 2 replies \ @Natalia 30 Dec 2023

not sure how many stackers read the saloon yesterday, I posted that Darth still watching SNL, which means @Darthcoin is still watching us!

https://m.stacker.news/9999

https://i.postimg.cc/5NfVqQN3/home-office-choke.jpg

47 sats \ 1 reply \ @ek 30 Dec 2023

I hope he also sees this

69 sats \ 0 replies \ @Natalia 30 Dec 2023 freebie

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304 sats \ 7 replies \ @ek 30 Dec 2023

When @nemo comes back:

https://m.stacker.news/10001

158 sats \ 6 replies \ @Natalia 30 Dec 2023

good thing that still have some sane stackers hanging out in the sallooon! 😂😂😂😂😂

666 sats \ 5 replies \ @ek 30 Dec 2023 freebie

I just realized that I left some meme potential on the ground:

https://m.stacker.news/10010

420 sats \ 4 replies \ @Natalia 30 Dec 2023 freebie

a meme to conclude this VERY moment 😂😂😂😂😂

but why are they all CAPITALS?

0 sats \ 3 replies \ @ek 30 Dec 2023 freebie

Glad you like it, makes me feel less weird about laughing so hard at how accurate this feels haha

edit: But mhh, the freebie bots aren't trying to put out the fire. So I think it makes more sense this way:

https://m.stacker.news/10011

Btw, Community is a great show. I can recommend it. This meme is from one the best episodes.

but why are they all CAPITALS?

I am using https://imgflip.com/, that's their default text style

10 sats \ 0 replies \ @RealCoachAndy 30 Dec 2023

Hello there!!! 6.47 am here in this rainy Saturday in Playa and the air is cool, not bad for the last 2023 weekend, time to relax and get things ready for the upcoming NYE celebration. Get the grapes if you do the tradition, otherwise tomorrow there will be none, I'm not much of the grapes but I am more on the goals, 12 goals set and those have 12 middle ones and for those 12 small ones. Focusing on the small ones and at the end of the year see if the long term ones were accomplished. One step at a time my friend. I wish you an incredible Saturday, may it be filled with love, relaxation and prosperity. Thank you for existing and for being so awesome!! You're important and what you do matters, I'm so proud of you, my friend and as always, be well and stay frosty. Hugs!!

89 sats \ 0 replies \ @carlosfandango 30 Dec 2023

False information, Spreading and consuming minds, Truth's demise unfolds.

814 sats \ 18 replies \ @ek 30 Dec 2023

Zap to zero day 3

Total satsback so far: 7911 sats (4419 sats yesterday)

does not include people zapping me over the day

https://m.stacker.news/9990

Seems like ~crypto is entering the bull market, too. But I think it's mainly thanks to @kr's post about Making Ethereum Cypherpunk Again which generated a lot of zaps - not only on the post itself but also in the comment section. I will use these sats to Make More Things Cypherpunk Again.

Also yesterday, the code has decided that it's time to reward content and not zapping, unlike yesterday. Got almost exactly 1k more sats for posting than for zapping. I feel proud.

Total zapped so far: 29.1k (16.1k yesterday)

https://m.stacker.news/9992

There might be another bug in our statistics. And I am not talking about unseating @Undisciplined from his third place - famous last words btw:

I will always have been the 3rd highest zapper for that 24 hour period. There's nothing you can do about it.

-- @Undisciplined, here

but that it showed that @Undisciplined made two posts yesterday but he didn't make any post, lol. Probably a time zone issue. Hopefully.

XP points gained so far: +14 (+10 from yesterday)

Unrelated to this experiment, but yesterday, @TonyGiorgio created a ticket and I was confused how paying the same invoice twice might lead to a loss of funds. Fortunately, he had patience with someone like me and quickly reminded me that preimages must be kept secret until the channels are closed iiuc:

Preimages are revealed to node routers when an invoice is paid. If they see the same payment being routed again with the same prrimage, they can swipe the funds.

Ah, makes sense. Forgot that the preimages must be kept secret until the channels are closed - not until the payment is done.

However, tbh, I am still slightly confused. If they already have seen the invoice, they already know the preimage, so how does seeing the same invoice again lead to a loss of funds exactly? But I think I knew the answer to this in the past while reading Mastering The Lightning Network. So I think the answer is somewhere in this book. It's a great book to just look some stuff up quickly. I just didn't yet. (It's even free to read in digital form.)

Regarding the experiment, I again had to stay up late to zap to zero.

To cut it short, here are my last zaps again. I really don't mind to tell people what content I zap on SN. Maybe I should mind? But at least what you can see here is only stuff that shouldn't be too controversial, right? Right?

https://m.stacker.news/9996

As you can see, the last zap was again probably a "I am really tired"-zap.

Btw, keep in mind that these are my personal zaps. Read this as a disclaimer like this one from @niftynei's blog:

Opinions are my own and exclusively reflect my beliefs and lived experiences.

-- https://basicbitch.software/static/about.html

click here for previous day

1688 sats \ 0 replies \ @TonyGiorgio 30 Dec 2023

This project highlights the problems with invoice reuse: https://github.com/dark-ln/preimage-stealer

Invoice reuse is basically preimage reuse which is basically reusing secrets that have already been revealed previously.

111 sats \ 0 replies \ @Undisciplined 30 Dec 2023

I blame the timezone difference for letting you catch up. I'll be back on top by days end.

1111 sats \ 2 replies \ @Natalia 30 Dec 2023

I am really tired zap

could I have a wake me up zap? 😂

2222 sats \ 1 reply \ @ek 30 Dec 2023

I think you're more an early bird than me. Don't you have to zap me up then? :)

3333 sats \ 0 replies \ @Natalia 30 Dec 2023

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345 sats \ 5 replies \ @ek 30 Dec 2023

I think my zap to zero posts are too big for the saloon, lol. I think I really should do separate posts for them. Then I also wouldn't have to wait for the new saloon to show up. But I think @elvismercury didn't mean daily posts.

But does that matter? :)

0 sats \ 2 replies \ @carlosfandango 30 Dec 2023

I don’t think it matters if they are long form. No one is forced to read them!

If you are going to post separately can I request you add a link in here please? Need to keep encouraging these types of challenge!

36 sats \ 1 reply \ @ek 30 Dec 2023

No one is forced to read them!

Yes but I am forcing people to scroll through them:

https://m.stacker.news/10017

stolen from another stacker

If you are going to post separately can I request you add a link in here please? Need to keep encouraging these types of challenge!

Great idea! Haven't decided yet though. Creating regular posts about this every day feels like asking for much too much attention. But it's probably just me.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @carlosfandango 30 Dec 2023

The attention is bearable isn’t it? And it’s easier than doing press ups in a disabled toilet pretending to be a snail lol!

111 sats \ 1 reply \ @Undisciplined 30 Dec 2023

He probably didn't expect such long saloon posts either.

286 sats \ 0 replies \ @ek 30 Dec 2023

Is this a challenge? :)

111 sats \ 6 replies \ @Eobard 30 Dec 2023

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30 sats \ 5 replies \ @ek 30 Dec 2023

experience points

111 sats \ 4 replies \ @Natalia 30 Dec 2023

how to look that up?

69 sats \ 3 replies \ @ek 30 Dec 2023 freebie

lol, we don't have XP points on SN. I just made that up for this experiment.

I got the idea because this experiment started as a survival game. And games usually have XP points :)

44 sats \ 2 replies \ @Natalia 30 Dec 2023 freebie

ughhh, I thoughts it's the secret code to reveale the trust point!

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @ek 30 Dec 2023

Maybe it's foreshadowing? :)

33 sats \ 0 replies \ @Eobard 30 Dec 2023

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109 sats \ 0 replies \ @satoshiplanet 30 Dec 2023

https://m.stacker.news/9997

235 sats \ 0 replies \ @PlebLab 30 Dec 2023

https://m.stacker.news/9995

Announcing Teresa Martin as a TopBuilder mentor.

Teresa Martin is an award-winning strategy consultant and marketing director working with start-ups, non-profits, and bitcoin-specific ventures.

Apply for TopBuilder before Jan. 13th, 2024: https://www.topbuilder.dev/

87 sats \ 0 replies \ @TNStacker 30 Dec 2023 freebie

Have a great day Stackers!

It is mother's 75 birthday. There will be drink, dancing, good food, and the playing of games!

Stack Sats, stay humble

https://m.stacker.news/9991

355 sats \ 6 replies \ @orthwyrm 30 Dec 2023

Day 259 of snailposting everyday 'til BTC hits $100k.

...and 59 push-ups. (32 - 15 - 12)

__@_'-'

97 sats \ 0 replies \ @BlokchainB 30 Dec 2023

👍

309 sats \ 1 reply \ @mango 30 Dec 2023

Day 40 of horseposting everyday

Horse Stance: 3 minutes 15 seconds

𓃗

https://m.stacker.news/10002

Upped 35s in 7 days.. Thank you @nemo "psych yourself up, and go!"

71 sats \ 0 replies \ @carlosfandango 30 Dec 2023

Nice!

97 sats \ 0 replies \ @carlosfandango 30 Dec 2023

Awesome!!

97 sats \ 0 replies \ @Public_N_M_E 30 Dec 2023

🫡

97 sats \ 0 replies \ @deletedd 30 Dec 2023

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240 sats \ 3 replies \ @Natalia 30 Dec 2023 freebie

I've noticed that some people are good at being told what to do, you might want to have them do the repetitive and less creative things. And some are at their best when being left alone and do what they are good at, you might want to have them keep moving things forward and explore the unknown.

The art is how to blend in each types and make the best of both strengths.

30 sats \ 1 reply \ @ek 30 Dec 2023

Too much wisdom early in the morning

179 sats \ 0 replies \ @Natalia 30 Dec 2023 freebie

just picked up newly made clothes from a new tailor, a bit disappointed - damn, he has great skills but not so inventive... then I was like, hmmm it actually makes sense, if he had both skills and taste/ design wise, then he could be a designer instead of being a tailor - so I would come to him to make basic things 😂

69 sats \ 0 replies \ @Eobard 30 Dec 2023

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142 sats \ 18 replies \ @ek 30 Dec 2023 freebie

I updated the description of ~crypto because of an argument if the Make Ethereum Cypherpunk Again post from @kr post belongs in ~crypto or not:

https://m.stacker.news/9989

Let me know what you think!

Defining what ~crypto is not about is more an ongoing process than something that is already determined by me.

47 sats \ 0 replies \ @quark 30 Dec 2023

I was confused. Maybe this would be a great example of a territory that needs sub territories. One for crypto technology, one for crypto news, one for each shitcoin... but this would be very expensive to maintain. Unless subterritories have a lower price than the parent territory.

61 sats \ 14 replies \ @Natalia 30 Dec 2023

how can you handle so many territories? 🤔

158 sats \ 13 replies \ @ek 30 Dec 2023 freebie

I like all three of them! They are like children for me.

But ~oracle is my firstborn. Maybe that means something.

182 sats \ 1 reply \ @Natalia 30 Dec 2023

so many children - need to commit less so to nurture the best:)!

I'm curious to see how many territories left after one month.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @carlosfandango 30 Dec 2023

I too am curious….

175 sats \ 10 replies \ @Eobard 30 Dec 2023

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131 sats \ 0 replies \ @Natalia 30 Dec 2023 freebie

The way I see it is this: the same thing as doing business: you don't need to register a company so to start the business, you can just start by doing, with testing/small things! so why not just make good content to start, you don't need to own any territory so to make great content! and if it comes to a time you feel like bringing things to the next level, then go for it - don't waste too much time on the shell at first.

I guess the end goal for all of us is to have fun and grow, just different paths to make it happen, so find out the one that work for you and enjoy along the way:)