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Sharing for discussion. Even if he's overselling the predominate online bitcoin culture as The Bitcoin Culture, we did something to leave a bad taste in his mouth. Bitcoin's online culture is rather prickly but would bitcoin be the same without it?
Being online appears to cause an over-exaggeration of opinion as if we might anchor counterparties to something other than their own opinion. We do it - probably - to create contrast between ideas that might not be visible in a fast moving algorithmic feed.
Something that I've found useful is considering if an opinion is not as stated, especially when unsupported with facts, and instead an attempt to move my perhaps wrong opinion. Some people are wrong and some people are mean, but some people are wrong and mean to lazily make a point.
The toxicity in bitcoin isn't its culture but the author isn't alone in thinking it is. As far as I can tell, the toxicity is an attempt to counterbalance something else and while some people have become career-counter-balancers, they're just one of many forces defining bitcoin.
I expect the toxic element to leave bitcoin once its position is more secure. In the meantime I'm not sure it survives without toxicity and people challenging the toxicity.
Well said @k00b. Totally agree. We live in an age of very lazy conversations. Very little care or thought is put into discourse. This is true in and out of bitcoin. You see the toxicity in other sub-groups as well. Human's are still adapting to the connected world. We seem to have an over-inflated view of our importance. I will admit that I'm pretty sure I do as well.
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You're right, it's everywhere. In a sense we're all upset at strawmen because we're all dressing up as strawmen.
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I expect the toxic element to leave bitcoin once its position is more secure.
Agreed. Dissonance research suggests this will be the case.
In the meantime I'm not sure it survives without toxicity and people challenging the toxicity.
I've heard this argument made before. I've always thought it was a justification for people being assholes, the same way most people being assholes have some excuse for it that makes their behavior fine. Nobody is the villain when they're telling the story.
So could you say more about how you think the toxicity has been key to btc's success?
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So could you say more about how you think the toxicity has been key to btc's success?
I don't have evidence for that hunch. Someone arguing bitcoin would be better off without assholes would have an easier time I think. Someone pro-toxicity usually argues it prevents influence and change (also false associations and warns people away from scams), but I can't tell if bitcoin is better off not changing. I can't rerun bitcoin's experiment under different conditions is my problem. Am I requiring too much evidence to pick a side? The author seems to think so.
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Without the toxic maxis Bitcoin would be full of, and doomed by, shitcoiners. Plain and simple.
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I see only shitcoiner tears in that article.... Nothing to discuss. Shitcoiners always lose. We should not "promote" any shitcoiners articles. Let them die in darkness. By sharing their garbage you just give them a voice.
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BTC maxis absolutely are a cult. They refuse to believe that Bitcoin and the way layer one is designed have any flaws at.all. they are unable to look at other cryptocurrencies and see the advancements and evolution that some altcoins have designed into their blockchain. Instead, they refer to every alt coin as a "shitcoin" and a "ponzi scheme."
There's a reason Satoshi Nakamoto disappeared/remained totally anonymous. He knew the people that bought into Bitcoin would be all in and completely loyal no matter what the cost in the long run. He knew if he stuck around and revealed himself he would be treated like a god by those who bought all in to Bitcoin. He knew these people would literally worship him the way Catholics worship the Pope. He wanted nothing to do with that, obviously. So he left the design and what he fully believed is the future of currency/money to the public to do as they will with it. He didn't want the power. He didn't want the fame. He didn't want to be worshiped. He just wanted to give the world a gift and a way to break free from the centralized banking system.
He, unlike those in the Bitcoin maxi cult, was completely and totally selfless. You Bitcoin maxi's should learn from the one you worship and live like he did. Selflessly.
People like this try to attack bitcoin by being such righteous anti maximalist saviors of bitcoin culture. They have some shitcoin agenda every single time. Like Elon says... He can go fuck himself.
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