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289 sats \ 15 comments \ @DarthCoin 18 Dec science

What on earth are the eugenicists preparing for with the doomsday seed vault? Why does humanity need a backup of millions of seed varieties that have presumably been around (for the most part) throughout human history? What kind of environmental catastrophe could possibly contaminate the gene pool to the point where we would need to repopulate the earth with heirloom, non-GMO seeds?

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42 sats \ 9 replies \ @guerratotal 18 Dec

I'm not 100% sure, but I believe that many genetically modified seeds cannot be used for replanting.

0 sats \ 8 replies \ @optimism 18 Dec

I've tried to figure this out too. I've heard claims that Monsanto has genetically nerfed their seeds to be non-reproductive, but then why is there a need for licensing?

200 sats \ 0 replies \ @guerratotal 18 Dec

My first job here in Brazil was with a company that provided services for Bayer. It's funny that many of the products that were banned from sale and marketing in Europe were sold here in Latin America without any problems.

21 sats \ 2 replies \ @guerratotal 18 Dec

I found here an Excel file with a summary of one of the clients I used to work with.

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @optimism 18 Dec

These are all insecticides it looks like? I'm sure there are plenty that are banned in Europe. Not all of these though.

100 sats \ 0 replies \ @guerratotal 18 Dec

Yes, most of them are insecticides, and it's common for either the product itself to be banned or part of the product's base to be banned because it contains a prohibited ingredient.

100 sats \ 2 replies \ @DarthCoin OP 18 Dec

Here it is that documentary: Food Inc. Very good one, from 2008

And there's also Food Inc 2

200 sats \ 1 reply \ @guerratotal 18 Dec

I went out to look for the documentary in Spanish and I came across this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwxCEKotnbg It's from 2013

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @DarthCoin OP 18 Dec

Ah yes! This is even better!

100 sats \ 0 replies \ @DarthCoin OP 18 Dec

so they can sue you. There was a documentary about that, but can't find it rn

202 sats \ 3 replies \ @optimism 18 Dec

Regions prone to natural disaster, like the Eastern and Northern Caribbean, often require specific heirloom seeds cultivated over many decades, sometimes centuries, to get proper crop yield with the extremes of some of the wet/dry cycles.

What I've understood from first-hand accounts in places like USVI and Dominica is that with Maria/Irma most of the heirlooms got lost, and they were replaced by UN CERF, with non-heirlooms.

I don't know if the centralized seed repository is evil or not, but what I do perceive is that the marginalized, most disaster-prone areas, need more than just some vault of generic tomato and kale seeds in Svalbard.

100 sats \ 2 replies \ @Scoresby 18 Dec

There was a company making portable seed vaults (basically shipping container sized little labs for cleaning, preserving, and storing seeds). Looks like they pivoted away from this lately, but I thought it was a really cool concept.

102 sats \ 1 reply \ @optimism 18 Dec

Like this: https://mmctech.us/products/mobile-seed-cleaner/?

100 sats \ 0 replies \ @Scoresby 18 Dec

The product I'm thinking of was aimed at forests and wasn't quite as mechanized as that.

565 sats \ 0 replies \ @0xbitcoiner 18 Dec

this 👇

The only logical conclusion is that the very eugenicists who have spearheaded the genetic engineering of the food supply are aware that their Machiavellian machinations threaten life on earth to such an alarming extent that a “backup” of the natural world may be needed to one day “reboot” the planet.