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POLL: Stacker News Slogan
1097 sats \ 59 comments \ @sn 8 Jul meta
The current Stacker News slogans (what is in the bio on X and nostr) are:
Reddit gives you upvotes. We give you bitcoin.
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Trying to fix online communities with economics.
Which of the following is the best update?
Pay to post. Zap to like.35.6%
Browse less, learn more.28.9%
Say something with value or GFY.17.8%
Less slop, more zaps.17.8%
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371 sats \ 3 replies \ @SimpleStacker 8 Jul
I like @Car's "The Front Page of Bitcoin". Even if it's not exactly true, it's true enough to not be false advertising.
If that's too bitcoin-specific, I'd go with something like, "Value-for-value online communities"
I think "Like Reddit, but we pay Bitcoin" is great for helping people understand what SN is, but I also think many people have a negative association of Reddit now
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263 sats \ 1 reply \ @Undisciplined 8 Jul
The Reddit comparison is what peeked my interest, but ultimately I don't think SN's slogan should reference another site.
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144 sats \ 0 replies \ @SimpleStacker 8 Jul
I don't think SN's slogan should reference another site.
Yeah, I agree
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152 sats \ 0 replies \ @justin_shocknet 8 Jul
This one is a no brainer, @Car's living in 2030 and knows what's up
Automatically makes anyone in Bitcoin curious enough to at least check it out
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290 sats \ 27 replies \ @k00b 8 Jul
My favorite atm: "Spend to say. Earn to stay." (We've been dumping a bunch of these in chat this afternoon.)
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100 sats \ 0 replies \ @DarthCoin 9 Jul
"Spend to say. Earn to stay."
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21 sats \ 0 replies \ @Aardvark 9 Jul
I like it actually
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102 sats \ 9 replies \ @deSign_r 9 Jul
people usually will not come if they know they need to pay to post, because the crowd will compare with what else is available and always pt for the cheaper or more convenient option. Why one shuld pay to post here and reach a niche when can do the same on X or r/ and reach the masses?
I'd probably keep all the payments and rewards working in the background... hide it. Let people post freebies but don't let them know it is as such and has less visibility. They will get it at some stage.
Same for the rewards, give it away to those that deserve it, but don't make it a public thing or a hook for predators to join the competition... it's more about collaboration.
Last, just visualize and present what today is named sats as zaps, karma or points... they are no sats anymore, and people get confused by the sybil fees anyway.
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102 sats \ 7 replies \ @028559d218 9 Jul
This is what everyone said to ProtonMail when they said 'hey we're going to charge for premium email'...
'ya noone will pay for that it's already free.'
15 years later ProtonMail has 80 million users.
In other words people will pay where they find quality.
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0 sats \ 4 replies \ @Scoresby 9 Jul
I'm coming around to this view.
I used to be pretty adamant that there should always be free paths and that "pay to post" was not the most attractive aspect of SN, but my experiences on Reddit and X have left me feeling that a sizable group of people may be willing to pay some small amount to escape the constant bot, spam, ai slop fest without aggressive moderation.
The problem with freebie posts that are limited in visibility is that it's a horrible first experience. You sign up, you put some hard work into writing a post and it just dies and feels like nobody cares. Is the number of people who bounce because of that experience greater or less than the number of people who would bounce because they are told they have to pay to post?
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102 sats \ 3 replies \ @deSign_r 9 Jul
Cowboys will have freebies enabled and will be their job to zap and uplift good freebie content. maybe is not working like that yet
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0 sats \ 2 replies \ @Scoresby 9 Jul
I have wild west mode enabled. the only freebie content that shows up in my feed are bios. Freebie comments never show up for me.
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @deSign_r 9 Jul
They did not have it so explicit in their slogan
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @028559d218 9 Jul
I mean... it's not rocket science.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @d680ecaa8e 9 Jul
Paying 1 satoshi for one post is not high amount of money, it is not even 0,01 $. You could purchase even for receiving 1 $ at coinbase the cobboy credits using bitcoin ln which is not also a fortune even for low budget earners. If post is for example 0,05 $ cost or 0,03 $ then it will discourage someone to contribute. Some platforms are up to 14 satoshis but it is not big amount of money. Most of them are replying and not making new threads.
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102 sats \ 1 reply \ @k00b 8 Jul
If we think it's better to not make it a tongue twister, we could do:
"Pay to post. Earn to stay."
Comparatively, it's boring, but it is explicit, brutally plain, and proposes a challenge.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Scoresby 9 Jul
It's funny how I actually have to think about what "earn to stay" means.
Pay to post is straightforward enough, i grasp it as I read. But "earn to stay" requires a double-take. This could be a good thing (as you pointed out elsewhere).
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0 sats \ 11 replies \ @Undisciplined 8 Jul
I do not like that
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64 sats \ 10 replies \ @k00b 8 Jul
why for
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103 sats \ 9 replies \ @Undisciplined 8 Jul
Good question. It was a visceral response. Something about it hurt my brain.
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43 sats \ 5 replies \ @SimpleStacker 8 Jul
How about "Come to earn. Stay to learn."
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31 sats \ 1 reply \ @Undisciplined 8 Jul
Following on k00b's point that it should be weird and frustrating:
Burn to learn. Yearn to earn.
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0 sats \ 2 replies \ @Undisciplined 8 Jul
Should those be switched?
Maybe not. That is the order that worked on me.
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42 sats \ 2 replies \ @k00b 8 Jul
Copywriting benefits from being weird like that. You might only remember a slogan for the pain it caused.
This slogan I have to read 10's of times to get comfortable with it. Every read digs its barbs deeper in my memory. Strangely, it makes perfect sense in terms of semantics and couldn't be shorter - it's just kind of a tongue twister.
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50 sats \ 0 replies \ @Undisciplined 8 Jul
Good point. Enjoying it is less important than remembering it.
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42 sats \ 0 replies \ @k00b 8 Jul
e.g. Trumps typos and misphrasings and factual inaccuracies are painful, but I never re-read a Joe Biden tweet 10 times to figure it out. I only vaguely recall Joe Biden having a presence on twitter as a result.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @rootmachine 8 Jul
This one is really good.
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133 sats \ 0 replies \ @k00b 8 Jul
"Joakim Book bet good money on Prydx that we will die."
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102 sats \ 1 reply \ @hasherstacker 8 Jul
Come for the income. Stay for the outcome.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Scoresby 9 Jul
This is a pretty fun one.
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102 sats \ 0 replies \ @unschooled 8 Jul
honestly, as great as these all are i feel you've done something really great with the cowboy/western theme and none of these really reflects this.
imho, you have a strong brand and the slogan should keep leaning into that.
the social frontier of bitcoin
for a few sats more
we're not web 3, we're web free
yee-haw
prospectin' for bitcoin
fistfulls of bitcoin
where keyboard cowboys get paid in bitcoin
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102 sats \ 0 replies \ @Undisciplined 8 Jul
I've wondered about something really simple like "Be heard"
What's the biggest point of dissatisfaction with the rest of social media? What's the most direct way to address it?
For me, the biggest frustration was low engagement (both qualitatively and quantitatively).
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125 sats \ 1 reply \ @deSign_r 9 Jul
Wasn't something like:
It's like Hacker News, but we pay you in Bitcoin
if you like to keep it as comparison, I like:
X = noise SN = signal
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10 sats \ 0 replies \ @optimism 9 Jul
"be the signal"
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100 sats \ 2 replies \ @Undisciplined 8 Jul
Here's one that just came to me: "The Front Page of Bitcoin"
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42 sats \ 1 reply \ @SimpleStacker 8 Jul
Car already uses that all the time
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Undisciplined 8 Jul
What are the odds?
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11 sats \ 0 replies \ @didiplaywell 9 Jul
Can we say something like
"real content pays off - in bitcoin"
That implicitly includes both the idea of giving and receiving zaps for good content, and each user will interpret it to the side of their interest. It also implicitly gives the idea that "being rewarded for real" is to receive bitcoin.
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21 sats \ 2 replies \ @noknees 9 Jul
Stack Truth. Stack Sats. Stacker News.
I have 2 other few good ideas as well:
  1. Stack. Zap. Repeat. (made this while going to bed)
  2. Proof of Thought, Paid in Sats.
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26 sats \ 0 replies \ @didiplaywell 9 Jul
As much as we love it I would try to avoid the term Zap, since anyone who sees it at a glance will not understand what we are talking about. Bitcoin is explicit to everyone!
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15 sats \ 0 replies \ @028559d218 9 Jul
I like these
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10 sats \ 0 replies \ @030e0dca83 9 Jul
stackerNews make spam unaffordable
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21 sats \ 4 replies \ @grayruby 8 Jul
#987530
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40 sats \ 3 replies \ @deSign_r 9 Jul
much better slogan
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51 sats \ 2 replies \ @didiplaywell 9 Jul
It's awesome. But I think it must contain the idea that you can receive bitcoin for your content, it's half of the selling point of SN (the other half being able to curate good content by supporting it with bitcoin).
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40 sats \ 1 reply \ @deSign_r 10 Jul
I don't think it is something that should be so explicit, at least not for the broader audience. And it will probably just attract more assmilkers and automated bots that aim to exploit and profit from the "algo".
How explicit YT and other platforms use the "monetize your content" for marketing? They probably do in the /for-creators page, not to attract the broader audience to digest the contents.
A detail SN should focus on is in defining the personas. @Scoresby, start with research, it will feed the execution.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @didiplaywell 10 Jul
I understand your point but the economics of SN are the only thing that sets it apart, both in marketing terms and in actual functional terms, for it's the mechanism that disciplines its content, regardless of how many assmilkers. I think it's an error to hide the one thing SN stands out about. Without it, it would be exactly like Hacker News, hence providing zero reason to not to use Hacker News instead. Indeed that's literally in the current slogan: "It's like Hacker News, but we pay you in Bitcoin". If we abstract the essentials away it will do more harm than good.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @d680ecaa8e 9 Jul
Browse less, learn more however I know the majority here are for zap and not knowledge. Rare people use SN to learn something new at life.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @guerratotal 9 Jul
"GFY" was a phrase that had a profound impact on me in this community. At first, I thought that if I wrote things written by an AI, I would sound smarter, more interesting... But the reality is that several people responded with a simple "GFY" (and I'm not going to lie to you), and at first I was offended.
Over time, I reflected and realized that something much more important is valued here: real, human, genuine experiences. As some people told me in their comments: we don't want AI-generated garbage, we want to hear from you.
And that was what hooked me most about this community: being able to be myself, without needing to impress anyone. Just telling my story.
That's why that phrase: "Say something with value or GFY" makes a lot of sense to me today, at least for me.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @028559d218 9 Jul
Stacker News: Get Paid for Your Posts. The most Valuable Place on the Internet.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @0987bcca87 8 Jul freebie
Okay
0 sats \ 0 replies \ @BlokchainB 8 Jul
Come to stack master the zap
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Scoresby 8 Jul
"Pay to post" probably scares people away. But it may also attract those who are really frustrated by the dynamics of social media elsewhere.
Also @DarthCoin says it a lot.
Have we considered "Make them pay"?
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @0xbitcoiner 8 Jul
Teach, Learn, Curate. Stack sats!
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