For me, it's not that I think Bitcoiners should be ideologically pushing Bitcoin adoption so much as I think they should be avoiding the dollar with a religious-like passion.

It's their comfortable relationship with fiat, while simultaneously talking about how bad it is... that is what pisses me off the most. I think if we really believed what we preach, we would be creating small, Amish-like communities with Bitcoin circular economies and we would go out of our way to use fiat as little as possible.

I want to see a religious-like "jihad" against the dollar. Bitcoin just becomes the obvious choice for money when we refuse to use dollars. Or maybe we can try something like Goldbacks, I dunno. Just stop using dollars, mmkay? And stop giving me lip-service about taxes, greshham's law, and trojan horses. You're just making excuses to be lazy. That shit's just noise. STOP USING DOLLARS. It's a simple goal to strive for, and I'm not seeing much of it in this community.

Cory Klippsten said something on a podcast a few years back that always stuck with me. Something about how historical revolutions only needed 10% of the population onboard in order to enact complete societal change.

So, I disagree when you say ideological adoption is only gonna get us so far. I think idealogical adoption can take us all the way. The problem is, most Bitcoiners are still too comfortable using and thinking in fiat terms, while using Bitcoin only as an investment vehicle. And I'm not talking about the short-term traders using Coinbase. I'm talking "hard-core" Bitcoiners who have read all the books and really understand the stakes. They aren't pushing very hard to end fiat. They keep talking about Trojan horses and Gresham's law... while comfortably using fiat.

There are enough of us to change the world today if we organized and focused on our ideals instead of them being only a side story in our lives.

I use an Apple Watch for biometric tracking. But I've always been curious about the Oura ring. I wonder if it does a better job.

That sucks, cuz it almost always leads to custodial options.

The merchants who learn to take self-custody will be rare. And the world may not change much, as we'd hoped.

Roger Ver would argue this is the fault of the protocol. But, I think it's the fault of the people. Humans are lazy. Nassau merchants are who layer 3 protocols such as Fedimint are for. Such protocols, while not much of an upgrade from fiat banking, ARE objectively still an upgrade from fiat banking, and should be praised by the Bitcoin community. (that's right @justin_shocknet , I'm still picking at this bone!)

I had a conversation with a bartender in Nassau the other day....

I was asking how I could pay and mentioned I'd prefer using Bitcoin if possible. She chuckled and proceeded to tell the following story.

Recently, a group of people swept through the city onboarding merchants to "Bitcoin". It didn't sound like they helped upgrade their PoS systems to use Bitcoin.... it was more like they onboarded them to "invest". Of course, it was a scam, and the group just left with the money.

Obviously, this isn't how real Bitcoin works. But it did highlight for me how far regular merchants and regular people are from being able to properly accept and self-custody real Bitcoin. They have been scammed so many times by groups claiming to be using "Bitcoin". Similar to how most American retail feels after the FTX fallout of 2022.

Ultimately, it's an education issue. Those same merchants, at some point, had to educate themselves to use fiat rails without being easy prey to scammers. It's no different. It's not Bitcoin's fault, it's theirs for being so uneducated.

They will educate themselves when they see others successfully using Bitcoin in commerce without being scammed left and right. They will educate themselves when their suppliers and customers say they will only trade in Sats.

It's not the responsibility of Bitcoiners to educate the world. But it is our obligation to stop using fiat. To set the example. To show them what we think of fiat. To stop accepting fiat for our goods/services. This will create a ripple effect.... and eventually the Nassau merchants will learn.

But this will never happen if SoV is all we focus on. If we don't stand up against fiat, we will get incredibly rich while the rest of the world perpetually suffers under The Creature. Wealthy, but complacent (in aiding slavery) and empty of virtue.

The dollar is clearly a piece of junk who's value has decreased by 99% since its genesis.

Yet, it's still the most powerful fiat currency, capable of preserving purchasing power more than any other. This is due to the fact that it is the most USED currency for global transactions. The usage supports and perpetuates the value, even against the headwinds of Cantillionaires (and the US gov) siphoning much of the value away.

Usage clearly is an incredibly important input to the equation. Imagine if Bitcoin were USED for even a little bit of global trade.

I’m not certain we’ll ever witness that day, considering that here in 2025, even those among us who comprehend the significance of the stakes persist in prioritizing convenience over liberty.

I know that's not the answer you were looking for, but it is a solution to the problem, nonetheless.

Belief in the existence of a "higher power".

This was my first thought.

OP, that website has way too many marketing cards. Narrow it down, pick the best, and make them even better.

You have a picture of a fiat bill where one side has Bitcoin logos and the other doesn't. But even the Bitcoin side shows the, "United States of America". It took me WAY too long to realize what you were trying to portray. To me, they both looked like fiat.

Crazy coincidence. That is exactly how much I added to my holdings last week also.

There are enough of us. We're just spread out globally.

I would bet that if just 10% of the global Bitcoin community moved to a chosen area, they would be enough to make an average sized U.S. city. And it would thrive and become and example to the world.

Absolutely, yes.

But I would pay attention to the natural ebbs and flows of my biology and psychology. Months might go by where my "work" is to just read a shit ton of books. Sometimes, "work" would be all about physical fitness. A season would come where "work" would be creating a new product that helps make the world a better place.

In other words, "work" comes in many flavors. The idea of a single job working 9-5, M-F, for many years, is an abomination and leads to death.

"To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose"

I believe these, and all peer-review, are technically public. But they are often behind hefty pay-walls, which is where the problem arises.

Am I wrong? I'm quite ignorant on the subject, beyond having an undergrad in science. Trying to learn by making a statement and hoping to be corrected.

Vilified by some, called "lucky" by the rest.

All while none of them listened to us when there was still time to do something about it.

I, for one, could use a few more centrifuges. The more the merrier.

I imagine that right now you're feeling a bit like Morpheus, hmm? Being told that the "real world" is just another layer of The Matrix...

I wonder if it is prudent to live our lives as though freedom, in all its forms, is likely an illusion?

This is a really good point.

Woah...

That's a lot of Sats.

Everything in moderation.

Why would I want dollars??