I played a few and got stumped on all of them (not much of a film buff - but i know of some!). Would be a great party game!

This is great! How's your headstand?

Never seen these here but I will check the local Asian grocer next time I'm there!

Lol - phew 😅

I don't know what this is and I'm scared to Google it

Probably not. Maybe if someone robs you of your bitcoin by force, but I don't think we're a the point where you have much legal recourse in either case.

I think I figured out a better way of framing my gripe.

My right over property may not be natural in the sense that a force in nature can sweep it all away leaving me with nothing - IOW, it can be untied by forces other than ill-meaning humans.

However, my right to live peacefully on and to use my own property without unjust interference is, probably, natural, because no earthly creature has a better claim to what is mine.

Now, I haven't entirely worked out what happens if an alien civilization comes and lays its claim to my bitcoin through some unknowable power. In this case, perhaps, I will reconsider what is natural

You've provided an interesting framing. Reminds me of how money is unjustly debated by the powers of the state apparatus.

I like what was said here #932907 about rights being somewhat problematic a term. In any case, I guess the fundamental most important right is that of being able to own and use one's own property without that property being unjustly infringed on.

Importantly, what I think lots of bitcoiners have in common (probably most people if you really got to know them) is that they dont believe the enforcement of their right to their money is 'aquired' by being party to a civilization that can protect you if that right becomes threatened.

In other words, my right to own bitcoin is 'natural' in the sense it doesn't require the state to intervene except (maybe) in edge cases.

Hobbes, Locke et al. didn't yet know about programmatically enforced property rights.

I'm with you.

Unfortunately, I don't think we get there without a shared set of ethical principles regarding individuals' rights and freedoms,

These are being eroded day by day in this country.

That's a good point.

Aside from observing the obvious property rights and maintaining a semblence of peaceful coexistence, there's probably a standard of virtues that a society ought to follow.

I'd recently heard of a man (in Canada) completely on government dole-outs, six children, and a wife pregnant with a seventh and has nothing to say for it other than inshallah In this case, allowing him to lead this lifestyle provided he peacefully coexists and plays along is probably much too tolerant enforcement of 'rules.' But it's certainly happening and that's far from an isolated case.

Really feels antithetical to a prosperous society...

Right. So, do you think looking at rights as either natural or acquired is somewhat of a false dichotomy?

It sounds like what the article is referring to as 'natural' are those afforded us by Nature, in the transcendentalist sense of 'I have the right to my own person i.e. not to be assaulted by you.' On the other hand, the author writes that Hobbes claimed, "property is a creation of the state."

I hadnt heard the lincoln version, only:

I was not really paying too close attention at the time, I probably would have thought around 2010-2011 that things were looking pretty good, judging from the cad/usd historical data. not sure what was happening gearing up to the decade of liberal tyranny to cause that.

talking to my SO about how great it would be to just get a job that paid in bitcoin.

SO: "I don't trust those kinds of things." "--what kinds of things, the job or the bitcoin?" "--both," SO retorted. I said, "its real, trust me." SO said, "well then you'd just have to sell it anyway and pay tax." "--I wouldn't pay tax." "What? Really?" I said, "yea, it's not their money so they can't really tax it." "--But, then, what if everyone realized that?!"

Personally I like colour clothes; maybe I like representing the "enemy of clarity and seriousness..."

I remember watching the Oliver Stone flick about Sowden and liking the vibrant, cooky colour pallets used in some of their costume design. Much more visually interesting than the washed out look.

You got it.