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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @itsybitsybtc 26 Aug 2023 \ on: How to tell someone you're a shitcoiner without telling them? meta
All I need to hear is the word crypto.
I don't know of any other projects in the space so thank you for linking me to a few, it got me a lot of afternoon reading. I am connected to a lot of physicians and private equity in the medical industry and this is something I only began seriously thinking about days ago.
Medical Records are something I figured many people are trying to cram into a blockchain project. And indeed, lots of ethereum based projects and other overly complicated applications and platforms. They are missing the point I think.
Nostr has a ton of velocity right now and it clicked for me that this could be the solution. The real issue with doing medical records is authentication, ux, and working with existing standards. It must be able to follow the standardized code system that is connected to the convoluted billing system of the medical industry. More importantly, the UX has to be there. It shouldn't be complicated at all, it should be one of the easiest transactions to take place in any visit for both parties.
I don't think its really been possible until what feels like yesterday.
What a great post, thank you so much for this. Something I have been thinking about is the storage and sharing of medical records. Freeing this from the burden of government control (who doesn't even want to do it in the first place) will reduce an immense amount of friction in the medical industry. It will increase privacy and freedom for Patients while reducing costs and administrative burden on Providers. Nostr is probably the single most interesting technology right now but people are distracted by AI and shitcoinery.
After giving it some thought I think I’ve come around on the lightning bolt. It looks like an s, and electricity is decidedly more cyberpunk and badass than any other option.
When I created the poll I didn’t know people used the lightning bolt for Sats I thought it meant distinctly LN, but it can do both.
Wish I could update my poll. Also the tip icons on this site should go the same direction as the ⚡️emoji.
The stacked symbol is still great and a close second for me but lightning bolt works well and already has shades of adoption.
Thanks for clarifying, that makes more sense. I still don't think this will happen, nor is it effective UX for bitcoin. Ultimately, if someone says "500 bitcoin", that already means something else and it happens to mean something incredibly important. Sats already has wide spread adoption, and there's no way I see it changing.
That said, had Bitcoin started off the way you're suggesting, I think it probably would have stuck. Just too late now.
First of all, that sounds miserable to read. How are prices written? A coffee is going to cost 35k sats, not 0.00035 btc. Tips are 500 sats. 0.000005 btc looks ridiculous.
But it doesn't even matter because it's too late. Sats are already adopted into the lexicon. No one is going to stop using that. We are already using it on this site itself. Every single post would be labeled .0000001 (I had to count, this already sucks) which also makes this notion really shitty UI.
What I am saying is that your impression of the symbol looking like a kabob will change. Much like your first impression of a lot of things have likely changed over time, or as you got used to it. And not everyone will see a kabob. I certainly didn't. But everyone who sees a lightning sees lightning.
A lightning bolt has an established visual context. Sats would simply be sharing that, instead of having something for itself. It is never going to be purely Sats, it will always be Sats and Lightning. Sats can and should have its own symbol.
And for that matter, suggesting the lightning bolt is only because of the Lightning Network. Sats exist off the LN and can still be sent off the LN. I believe Sats can and should have its own symbol.
Symbols also have to be employable around the world and be immediately context recognizable. Lightning bolt is already established iconography; for lightning. It is used in signage to warn about storms and dangerous situations. Lightning bolts also get drawn in different ways by different people. There might not be an Emoji keyboard available every time someone wants to denote something in sats.
You might see a kabob, but that isn't how branding works. With global adoption, people will only see Sats no matter what their first impressions are.
Well, apparently I can't vote in my own Poll, but if I could my vote is for 1.
My background is in branding and design. I’ve helped establish and maintain global corporate identity systems, and I think the Sats Symbol meets every important piece of criteria to achieve world wide adoption and usage.
- It is distinct from every other currency symbol and yet it looks like a currency symbol.
- It can scale well to any size large or small.
- It requires the bare minimum to reproduce.
- It looks digital. Pure, straight lines.
- It is derived directly from the Bitcoin symbol, as a sat is still part of Bitcoin.
While I think Option 2 is clever, and could also work, there are a few things going against it.
- It is too derivative of an existing symbol. Why have it resemble the @ symbol at all. Bitcoin is a new thing, it should have a new visual language.
- It does not have great scalability. At very small sizes it will be hard to distinguish between the @ and this proposal. Very large will look oddly proportioned.
- It doesn’t reproduce very well. Consider drawing the 2 symbols for a road side stand in Cambodia. Which is going to be easier to marker, and read from the road?
- The S with the lines is derived from the $. It is basically $+@. Why do we want any visual heritage from that absolute shitcoin in a brand new symbol in the Bitcoin design language. It also makes it feel more US centric. Bitcoin is for everyone.
I don’t see any reason why we shouldn’t move forward adopting the 3 line sats symbol. It should be a unicode character, it should be in phone keyboard layouts, it should sitting right next to the Sats amount in this very website.
For now, good idea. This will be another nice tool to help onboard people to what it is like using Lightning. In fact, I think it is great how it shows the power of Bitcoin without anyone having to actually buy any. I think it drops the barrier a lot.
Your name is ok. I'm not sure I am going to find myself saying "Go get get in".
Longer term, I think this is unnecessary. At some point, Apple, Google, Samsung, Huawei et all will be forced to support Bitcoin custody natively on their devices. That should evolve directly to lnurl-auth support.
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