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0 sats \ 12 replies \ @grayruby OP 19 May \ parent \ on: 49ers extend Fred Warner Stacker_Sports
None of those guys are old when the contract ends. Maybe Kittle but Kelce is still productive at 36 why can’t Kittle be.
By NFL standards 30 is pretty old. Elite HoFers can extend but typically are role players over 30 vs stars. Obvs some exceptions but statistically most good players get 1 real contract after their rookie deal and most are out of the league come early 30s
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Good thing the four oldest guys are all future hall of famers.
Derrick Henry just had a monster season at 31 and CMC is not a power back. He could be a slot WR.
We already discussed Kelce and Kittle comparison.
Brandon Graham had 11 sacks at age 34 two years ago but you are question is Bosa can play at 31.
Bobby Wagner just had a great year for the commies at 34 years old. Yet Warner will be too old at 33.
Sure maybe one of these guys drops off and is a shell of himself or they all decline and aren’t all pros anymore but this dumb narrative that the 49ers are finished because they are too old and expensive is ridiculous.
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Your argument is essentially the team is screwed because 3-4 years from now a couple guys who are highly paid might not be all pros anymore. Meanwhile they will continue to draft and develop the next wave, augment in FA and the cap will continue to rise.
Eagles showed everyone the blueprint. Pay and lock up your stars and let everyone else walk and replace them with young, cheap, controllable players.
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These guys will be core to the success / failure for the next few seasons but future draft and development will determine success 2+ years down the line as you said. Main point is nfl is a young man’s game and contributions beyond 30 are outliers. Won’t surprise me if a lot of these guys are cut, traded, or retire before the end of contract terms
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Broadly agree but I would like to see a comparison of how multi time all pros perform over 30 compared to the avg player. Like I said, they likely aren’t all pros at the tail end of these contracts but the idea they are all going to retire or get cut is just silly.
Besides if they all retire early the 49ers have tons of free cap space to replace them in FA.
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From perplexity:
Here is a list of NFL players who were age 30 or older in the season and named to either the AP First or Second Team All-Pro over the last 10 seasons (2015–2024). Only players who were actually 30+ during the season are included.
2024 Season
- Trent Williams (OT, 49ers) – 36, 1st Team[1][7]
- Jason Kelce (C, Eagles) – 37, 2nd Team[1][7]
- Joel Bitonio (G, Browns) – 33, 2nd Team[1][7]
- Bobby Wagner (LB, Commanders) – 34, 2nd Team[1][7]
2023 Season
- Trent Williams (OT, 49ers) – 35, 1st Team
- Jason Kelce (C, Eagles) – 36, 2nd Team
- Joel Bitonio (G, Browns) – 32, 2nd Team
2022 Season
- Trent Williams (OT, 49ers) – 34, 1st Team
- Jason Kelce (C, Eagles) – 35, 1st Team
- Joel Bitonio (G, Browns) – 31, 1st Team
- Zack Martin (G, Cowboys) – 32, 1st Team
2021 Season
- Trent Williams (OT, 49ers) – 33, 1st Team
- Jason Kelce (C, Eagles) – 34, 2nd Team
- Joel Bitonio (G, Browns) – 30, 2nd Team
- Zack Martin (G, Cowboys) – 31, 1st Team
2020 Season
- Trent Williams (OT, 49ers) – 32, 2nd Team[5]
- Cameron Heyward (DT, Steelers) – 31, 2nd Team[5]
- Fletcher Cox (DT, Eagles) – 30, 2nd Team[5]
- Cole Beasley (WR, Bills) – 31, 2nd Team[5]
- Andre Roberts (KR, Bills) – 32, 2nd Team[5]
2019 Season
- Cameron Jordan (DE, Saints) – 30, 1st Team
- Jason Kelce (C, Eagles) – 32, 1st Team
2018 Season
- Andrew Whitworth (OT, Rams) – 37, 2nd Team
- Jason Kelce (C, Eagles) – 31, 1st Team
2017 Season
- Andrew Whitworth (OT, Rams) – 36, 2nd Team
- Calais Campbell (DE, Jaguars) – 31, 1st Team
- Jason Kelce (C, Eagles) – 30, 1st Team
2016 Season
- Tom Brady (QB, Patriots) – 39, 2nd Team[6]
- Joe Thomas (OT, Browns) – 32, 2nd Team[6]
- Marshal Yanda (G, Ravens) – 32, 1st Team[6]
- Jason Peters (OT, Eagles) – 34, 2nd Team[6]
2015 Season
- Carson Palmer (QB, Cardinals) – 36, 2nd Team[6]
- Tom Brady (QB, Patriots) – 38, 2nd Team[6]
- Adrian Peterson (RB, Vikings) – 30, 1st Team[6]
- Brandon Marshall (WR, Jets) – 31, 2nd Team[6]
- Richie Incognito (G, Bills) – 32, 2nd Team[6]
- Marshal Yanda (G, Ravens) – 31, 1st Team[6]
- Ryan Kalil (C, Panthers) – 30, 1st Team[6]
Notes:
- Ages are based on the player's age during the NFL season, not at the time of award announcement.
- Only selections to the AP First or Second Team are included.
- Some years had more over-30 All-Pros, especially among offensive linemen and a few standout veterans at other positions.
Sources
[1] 2024 NFL All-Pros - Pro-Football-Reference.com https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2024/allpro.htm
[2] 2024 All-Pro Team: Lamar Jackson, Ja'Marr Chase, Justin Jefferson ... https://www.nfl.com/news/2024-all-pro-team-lamar-jackson-jamarr-chase-justin-jefferson-highlight-roster
[3] NFL All-Pro team 2024: 50 best players, picks at every position - ESPN https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/43241328/nfl-all-pro-team-2024-season-barnwell-50-best-players-picks-every-position-pro-bowl
[4] Top 30 NFL players over 30 entering 2024 season: Tyreek Hill, Trent ... https://www.nfl.com/news/top-30-nfl-players-over-30-entering-2024-season-tyreek-hill-trent-williams-chris-jones-lead-rankings
[5] 2020 NFL All-Pros - Pro-Football-Reference.com https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2020/allpro.htm
[6] 2015 NFL All-Pros - Pro-Football-Reference.com https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2015/allpro.htm
[7] 2024 NFL All-Pro Team: See who made the roster | AP News https://apnews.com/article/nfl-all-pro-2024-cdf9837431c51929b072c357988bc024
[8] List of NFL All-Pro Teams | Packers Wiki | Fandom https://packers.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_NFL_All-Pro_Teams
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