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20 sats \ 5 replies \ @HardMoney 19 May \ parent \ on: 49ers extend Fred Warner Stacker_Sports
These guys will be core to the success / failure for the next few seasons but future draft and development will determine success 2+ years down the line as you said. Main point is nfl is a young man’s game and contributions beyond 30 are outliers. Won’t surprise me if a lot of these guys are cut, traded, or retire before the end of contract terms
https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/s/HKhfhAHfm4
Broadly agree but I would like to see a comparison of how multi time all pros perform over 30 compared to the avg player. Like I said, they likely aren’t all pros at the tail end of these contracts but the idea they are all going to retire or get cut is just silly.
Besides if they all retire early the 49ers have tons of free cap space to replace them in FA.
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From perplexity:
Here is a list of NFL players who were age 30 or older in the season and named to either the AP First or Second Team All-Pro over the last 10 seasons (2015–2024). Only players who were actually 30+ during the season are included.
2024 Season
- Trent Williams (OT, 49ers) – 36, 1st Team[1][7]
- Jason Kelce (C, Eagles) – 37, 2nd Team[1][7]
- Joel Bitonio (G, Browns) – 33, 2nd Team[1][7]
- Bobby Wagner (LB, Commanders) – 34, 2nd Team[1][7]
2023 Season
- Trent Williams (OT, 49ers) – 35, 1st Team
- Jason Kelce (C, Eagles) – 36, 2nd Team
- Joel Bitonio (G, Browns) – 32, 2nd Team
2022 Season
- Trent Williams (OT, 49ers) – 34, 1st Team
- Jason Kelce (C, Eagles) – 35, 1st Team
- Joel Bitonio (G, Browns) – 31, 1st Team
- Zack Martin (G, Cowboys) – 32, 1st Team
2021 Season
- Trent Williams (OT, 49ers) – 33, 1st Team
- Jason Kelce (C, Eagles) – 34, 2nd Team
- Joel Bitonio (G, Browns) – 30, 2nd Team
- Zack Martin (G, Cowboys) – 31, 1st Team
2020 Season
- Trent Williams (OT, 49ers) – 32, 2nd Team[5]
- Cameron Heyward (DT, Steelers) – 31, 2nd Team[5]
- Fletcher Cox (DT, Eagles) – 30, 2nd Team[5]
- Cole Beasley (WR, Bills) – 31, 2nd Team[5]
- Andre Roberts (KR, Bills) – 32, 2nd Team[5]
2019 Season
- Cameron Jordan (DE, Saints) – 30, 1st Team
- Jason Kelce (C, Eagles) – 32, 1st Team
2018 Season
- Andrew Whitworth (OT, Rams) – 37, 2nd Team
- Jason Kelce (C, Eagles) – 31, 1st Team
2017 Season
- Andrew Whitworth (OT, Rams) – 36, 2nd Team
- Calais Campbell (DE, Jaguars) – 31, 1st Team
- Jason Kelce (C, Eagles) – 30, 1st Team
2016 Season
- Tom Brady (QB, Patriots) – 39, 2nd Team[6]
- Joe Thomas (OT, Browns) – 32, 2nd Team[6]
- Marshal Yanda (G, Ravens) – 32, 1st Team[6]
- Jason Peters (OT, Eagles) – 34, 2nd Team[6]
2015 Season
- Carson Palmer (QB, Cardinals) – 36, 2nd Team[6]
- Tom Brady (QB, Patriots) – 38, 2nd Team[6]
- Adrian Peterson (RB, Vikings) – 30, 1st Team[6]
- Brandon Marshall (WR, Jets) – 31, 2nd Team[6]
- Richie Incognito (G, Bills) – 32, 2nd Team[6]
- Marshal Yanda (G, Ravens) – 31, 1st Team[6]
- Ryan Kalil (C, Panthers) – 30, 1st Team[6]
Notes:
- Ages are based on the player's age during the NFL season, not at the time of award announcement.
- Only selections to the AP First or Second Team are included.
- Some years had more over-30 All-Pros, especially among offensive linemen and a few standout veterans at other positions.
Sources
[1] 2024 NFL All-Pros - Pro-Football-Reference.com https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2024/allpro.htm
[2] 2024 All-Pro Team: Lamar Jackson, Ja'Marr Chase, Justin Jefferson ... https://www.nfl.com/news/2024-all-pro-team-lamar-jackson-jamarr-chase-justin-jefferson-highlight-roster
[3] NFL All-Pro team 2024: 50 best players, picks at every position - ESPN https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/43241328/nfl-all-pro-team-2024-season-barnwell-50-best-players-picks-every-position-pro-bowl
[4] Top 30 NFL players over 30 entering 2024 season: Tyreek Hill, Trent ... https://www.nfl.com/news/top-30-nfl-players-over-30-entering-2024-season-tyreek-hill-trent-williams-chris-jones-lead-rankings
[5] 2020 NFL All-Pros - Pro-Football-Reference.com https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2020/allpro.htm
[6] 2015 NFL All-Pros - Pro-Football-Reference.com https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2015/allpro.htm
[7] 2024 NFL All-Pro Team: See who made the roster | AP News https://apnews.com/article/nfl-all-pro-2024-cdf9837431c51929b072c357988bc024
[8] List of NFL All-Pro Teams | Packers Wiki | Fandom https://packers.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_NFL_All-Pro_Teams
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Skews heavily to OLine guys but a few DEs in there and they don’t need to be all pro players over 30. That’s a very high bar. They just need to still be very good players.
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Trent Williams is an absolute beast and anomaly being the best OT in the league for so long.
I think in general the biggest thing that causes drop off is injuries and losing some of that fast twitch burst.
It’s remarkable how quickly some guys fall off in athletically dominant positions
Julio jones
AJ green
Here’s a good article
https://www.fantasylife.com/articles/redraft/how-does-age-impact-wr-performance-in-fantasy-football
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I think WR and DB definitely age out around 30. What makes Warner so great is his coverage ability. It will be interesting to see how that holds up. As great as Wagner was last year, he wasn’t the same in coverage, he was just such a monster stopping the run that he still had a great year.
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