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I like weekend long reads—I really do.
I don't care about French intellectuals, or literature, or MAGA (at least not very much)... but on a slow weekend, I'm down to read practically any quality writing that tries to take a bigger grasp on things or tell a fascinating story.
Today, we get Réné Girard.
I didn't know his name, but I knew of his most well-known idea—memetic desire:
Very nice, magic story about finding his way to God, too:
As a young man, he had been an atheist, inspired by the secular existentialism of Sartre and Camus. He had written most of Deceit, Desire and the Novel in what he called “demystification mode”, aiming to reveal the delusions of mimetic desire. Then, one day, commuting from Baltimore to teach in Pennsylvania while completing his first book, he had an experience of the transcendent, observing the sun glinting on the industrial wasteland alongside the tracks. This, and a cancer scare, caused him to return to the Catholic faith of his mother.
While Girard described himself as a centrist, his ideas are now celebrated by a movement that, while not unilaterally rightwing, incubated the policies of the Trump administration. [...] Some conservatives today consider Derrida’s thought (or “postmodernism”, as they usually call it) to be the source of modern society’s ills. Girard later joked that, by inviting Derrida, he and his fellow conference organisers had let the plague into America.
Girard's second book, Violence and the Sacred (1972), is, according to the FT author, his most famous. It "describes how human societies enter into periods of crisis in which competition becomes unbearable" — and you gotta scapegoat to get out of it... foreigners, disability, authority, Jews, the poor.

"Whatever Girard read, he seemed to discover confirmation of his ideas."

Lol, don't we all...
The conservative touch boils down to "Peter Thiel and J.D. Vance likes him." Oh well, good enough:
There is one moment in I Saw Satan Fall Like Lightning that recent readers have fixated upon. Girard mentions that the Christian concern for the victims could be exploited in ways that were deceptive and instrumental. In one late interview, he associated this “caricature” of Christian values with the figure of the Antichrist. These brief and suggestive remarks have been taken up by Girard’s more radical readers as a prescient critique of contemporary liberalism.

"What would Girard say about the politics of today, America’s new immigration policies or the escalating trade war between the US and China?"


non-paywall here: https://archive.md/L35a6
59 sats \ 1 reply \ @jimmysong 21h
I'm a big fan of Girard, so I'll take a stab at the question at the end.
I think Girard would say that US and China are in mimetic warfare and that they're both imitating each other. And in many ways this is true. The Belt and Road initiative is really China's version of the IMF and World Bank, for example. Girard would probably say that Trump's attempting to bring manufacturing to the US is imitating China's manufacturing. Even immigration policy can be seen as going from imitating Europe to imitating China. So at least from an economic perspective, there's a lot of power and status games being played where they're mimetic rivals for supremacy.
In that context, the scapegoat here may very well be Russia, whose conflict with Ukraine really has very little to do with either country, but becomes the source of blame for the malignant economy we've seen the last few years. There's definitely some of that.
Prediction-wise, Girard would say that the mimetic rivalry will result in real violence, so that would mean a conflict with China is way more likely than Russia. But if they do broker peace, it'll be essentially scapegoating Russia and ganging up on it.
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appreciate you popping in and giving us your two sats!
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HUH... I had never heard of Rene Girard till now, but he seems to have some interesting ideas worth reading. If Peter Thiel and JD Vance like him, that's a pretty good sign too (from my vantage point, anyway)
Just one thing I'll about about memetic desires... it reminds me of the Fight Club quote: "We work jobs we hate, to buy things we don’t need, to impress people we don’t like"
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35 sats \ 0 replies \ @k00b 23h
I read I Saw Satan Fall Like Lightning seven or so years ago. I enjoyed it enough to give to my uncle in law.
My sense is that Gerard is right about both what Jesus represents and that memetic desire is one of the (primitive) mechanisms that bootstraps our complex culture.
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Sounds interesting- may have to look more closely at this. Thanks of the review.
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