1275 sats \ 10 replies \ @juan 10 Nov 2022 \ on: I decided to offer tip in restaurants only via Lightning Network. bitcoin
We’re building a solution for this🫡🧡
We’ve been building https://lightsats.com for 5 weeks now we’re part of the Bolt🔩Fun Legends of Lightning ⚡️ Tournament which lets you leave tips to people that don’t know about bitcoin without having to do the onboarding yourself and having them download a wallet right on the spot.
Here’s how it works:
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You can sign up to our site using your LN wallet for privacy.
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Enter the amount either in fiat or in sats and you can choose the currency you want the person receiving the tip to see. You can add their name if you want to personalize it and a small note.
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Fund the tip via your LN Wallet (I usually find my tips via Strike so I don’t use my stash).
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Once the invoice is finde a QR Code is generated that you present to the person receiving the tip.
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They are taken to a landing page with the $ amount of the tip, welcome message and special note. The user needs to claim their tip via email (adding sms to streamline the process).
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Once claimed we take them through a which 5 step onboarding journey and suggest LN Wallets to download and claim their funds)
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Once sats and withdrawn we give them guides they can start exploring, want to spend your bitcoin? Want to send it to someone else? Want to buy more? Want to earn more.
All of this is done with the safety that you can put an expiration date to the tip in case the person isn’t interesting in exploring if they claim the funds but not withdraw them before the expiration dates the sats can be reclaimed and sent back to your wallet!
I already tried it with my barber after my haircut and also I tipped a bartender as well, he still hasn’t withdrawn his funds but still has like 27 days left!
Want it yea it out??
Shoot me a DM https://twitter.com/Lightsats21 I’d love for you to see it and give any feedback on things we can add or improve! 🍊💊
I think I should do some research.
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Actually, feel free to claim these - https://lgt.st/Play_to_earn
Hopefully, you can claim them before someone else snatches them..
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thanks for recommending
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If you DM us on Twitter @lightsats21 I can send you a tip so you get to experience what it's like to claim on!
also, we're part of the Bolt🔩Fun Legends of Lightning⚡️Tournament We've been building this idea for the past 5 weeks and are building in public so I post updates every Sunday on our progress 🙂
And we're fully open-source -
https://github.com/lightsats/lightsats
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I did full circle inside your system. It's nice, educational and I believe it will be heavily utilised :)
P.S. maybe no e-mail involved would be a nice feature.... Just scan QR code and land on proper page as a gateway to the tip (less hassle)
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Thank you!
As much as we wanted to keep it like that without asking for any personal information, it won’t work because some users might scan the QR Code but not do the onboarding on the spot. If you’re tipping your waiter/waitress more than likely they will claim the funds first but will come back to it later once they are with their shift so we need to have a way for them to authenticate and recover those funds in case they close the browser session.
Also with the idea of adding expiration dates, we need to have a channel of communication open with the user so we can communicate the expiration date with reminders and incentivize the user to take action to withdraw their sats.
We also have plans on doing email guides, something like “21 Days of Bitcoin” to make sure all the users are getting exposed to as much educational material that they can choose to consume.
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we need to have a way for them to authenticate and recover those funds in case they close the browser session.
For me that would be better scenario:
"Please scan this QR and all the info is there"
Maybe I'm only an old grumbler ;) - but no hassle with e-mail is really nice (please compare: https://ln.cash/ ).
I suppose every smartphone browser has history nowadays.
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I completely get it and agree with you but you really have to put yourself in the shoes of someone that is first being introduced to bitcoin, where we are failing the most trying to orange pill 🍊💊 new users are expecting for them to either get it once they receive sats in their wallet or that they will have the initiative to go out of their way to start exploring and learning on their own, which some will but not a lot of them. And even then, as a new user where do you even start? By the time they start researching they'll end up getting sucked in shitcoinery land.
A lot of people have also pointed to how https://ln.cash/ does their tips which is an amazing way of doing it and effective if you're already a bitcoiner, but if you are not? Does it give me a recommended list of trusted LN Wallets? Do I have some curated educational material or guides or listings I can start exploring on my own?
I'll continue doing more user research as we go and will definitely report back, also I'd love for you to test the app one of these days when you want to tip a server and hear some feedback on your experience!
Thanks so much for opening up this discussion thread it really hones down 100% to what we're building and what we're trying to solve!✌🏼
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my suggestion was to combine both ways - the link what complete newbie scan is your unique link, where he/she can:
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claim the tip (and I would make e-mail feature optional only, because e-mail itself may cointain private data like surname, so there might be some discomfort for newbie here (it may even induce some RODO issues in EU)
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get all educational information you mentioned, e.g. list of trusted wallets, usefull links etc
So newbie can chose between a "fast route" and "more advanced route", if only he/she has time for it.
Just my 2 sats ;)
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P.S. I discovered rn RODO is an domestic acronym... international in EU is: GDPR (General Data Protection Regulation)
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