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i've just realized that i should have said 4th turning lol the ultimate typo, that being said, handing over to gpt the classic definition of a 4th turning
A Fourth Turning is a period of intense national crisis that occurs roughly every 80 to 100 years, marking the end of a historical cycle. It’s when old institutions break down, public trust collapses, and society faces a major upheaval—such as war, revolution, or economic collapse. Unlike the previous era of fragmentation and individualism, the Fourth Turning is marked by collective action, where people come together to confront existential challenges. It’s triggered by a major event, like a financial crash or global conflict, and unfolds over two decades or more, ultimately leading to a profound transformation of society and the birth of a new order. Think of it as the “winter” season in the cycle of history—a time of hardship, but also of rebirth.
so i think you're on the money
The optimistic take would be that this one started in 2007 and is almost over.
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i'd like to think so, although it sure doesn't feel like we're about to exit this phase anytime soon tbh
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No, my guess is that Covid is a more likely starting point and we've got a ways to go.
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