I'm of the belief that it's astrology for doomers, but I know some bitcoiners believe in it. What's your thoughts?
Yes, any second now..36.8%
No, it's astrology for doomers. 63.2%
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21 sats \ 0 replies \ @IamSINGLE 2h
It's not scientific so it can happen anytime. We can only guess. We only can know when it has already happened. So be prepared.
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80 sats \ 15 replies \ @SimpleStacker 12h
What if we're literally in the midst of it?
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59 sats \ 14 replies \ @Aardvark OP 12h
Considering that we're decades beyond when it was first predicted, I'd say that it's nonsense.
On a long enough timeline something bad is going to happen, but to me, the 4th turning window was closed a long time ago.
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63 sats \ 9 replies \ @SimpleStacker 12h
I think I'd qualify COVID and the reaction to it as perhaps qualifying for a 4th turning level event... especially since I think it was a lack of virtue and strength that made people so accepting of the policy responses from the government
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110 sats \ 8 replies \ @Aardvark OP 12h
If that's the case, it was a pretty weak 4th turning.
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52 sats \ 7 replies \ @SimpleStacker 11h
It may seem that way, but as an educator I think online education absolutely wrecked a generation of kids... and it was worst for the most vulnerable, who didn't have access to quiet spaces and fast internet connections and parents who could help fill the gaps in learning.
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70 sats \ 6 replies \ @Aardvark OP 11h
When compared to a civil war or world War, i don't consider covid to be that big of a deal.
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42 sats \ 3 replies \ @Undisciplined 12h
Why do you say that? We're talking about roughly 80 year cycles and that may be increasing as people have started having kids later and retiring later.
1st cycle: Revolutionary War - Civil War (about 80 years)
2nd cycle: Civil War - WWII (about 80 years)
3rd cycle: WWII - Present? (it's been about 80 years)
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31 sats \ 2 replies \ @Aardvark OP 11h
I'm pretty sure the first books predicted it would have already happened, and it was amended in the second book.
Who knows though, right?
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42 sats \ 1 reply \ @Undisciplined 11h
I've often had difficulty nailing down the different phases with any precision, but it feels like we're going through heightened chaos now and that seems to me to be predicted by the past periods of major chaos.
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26 sats \ 0 replies \ @Aardvark OP 11h
If I turn out to be wrong, it certainly wouldn't be the first time.
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42 sats \ 2 replies \ @denlillaapan 7h
Is there no middle way??
Maybe yes, but not yet...?
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19 sats \ 1 reply \ @Aardvark OP 7h
That seems like a reasonable answer, but ultimately wrong because I didn't think to put it on the poll.
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42 sats \ 0 replies \ @denlillaapan 6h
I'm such a rebel
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42 sats \ 7 replies \ @Coinsreporter 10h
We aren't yet there but we're near.
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20 sats \ 6 replies \ @Aardvark OP 10h
Perpetually near it sounds like.
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21 sats \ 5 replies \ @Coinsreporter 10h
Can be or not, I'm just not sure about the perpetual, but within the next 100 years for sure.
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20 sats \ 4 replies \ @Aardvark OP 10h
That would mean that it doesn't exist. 100 years from now an entire additional 4th turning should have happened.
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21 sats \ 3 replies \ @Coinsreporter 10h
Yes, it doesn't exist imo. But it'll be in existence within next 100 years.
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20 sats \ 2 replies \ @Aardvark OP 9h
If it doesn't happen way before 100 years, it disproves it even exists. Its supposed to be every generation, and should have started by now.
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42 sats \ 3 replies \ @grayruby 10h
One could argue we are in a fourth turning.
It's a good book. I think the idea of generational cycles has some merit. I wouldn't take it too seriously though.
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40 sats \ 2 replies \ @Aardvark OP 10h
If we are, it's a boring turning.
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42 sats \ 1 reply \ @grayruby 10h
We have managed to avoid world war but in the past 20 years have had the GFC and Covid pandemic. We have seen great technological change and are going through a period where trust in institutions is crumbling. Maybe it is tame compared to other fourth turnings but I don't think I has been boring.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Aardvark OP 10h
I'm not sure that it would qualify as one for me.
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21 sats \ 0 replies \ @byzantine 3h
it is only real in hindsight. it wasn't real in turnings 1, 2,or 3 until they looked at it when writing the book.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Solomonsatoshi 1h
Woke quasi mystical nonsense.
But the US is in terminal decline and China is rising.
Trumps concessions to war criminal Putin and threats to place 100% tariffs on any nations who follow Iran, N.Korea and Russia in adopting Chinas alternative trade payments regime show how desperate the declining USA has become.
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