This sounds like something Ellison would say. He screwed with Solaris, made it OpenSource and brought it back into Oracle whilst he was destroying Sun Computers. You are exactly over the target when you say, “Their example is their real advice.” Actions always speak louder than words. Also, you can only judge a person correctly by his actions, not his words. Isn’t Ubuntu open source? It is good, and I don’t think anybody got f*ed in the making.