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9 sats \ 24 replies \ @028559d218 28 Jan \ parent \ on: How to Acquire No KYC Bitcoin bitcoin_beginners

Thanks for your comment. I think some of the 'fud' around Lightning (even from some people who mean well) is due to its complexity.

I am still learning new things about Lightning every day, and "privacy" on the internet in general is the product of many digital tools and techniques, "opsec" for lack of a better word involving data and accessing it.

VPNs and TOR are only some examples of this... but using Bitcoin really privately will have a huge learning curve too.

Some people are just... kinda lazy and don't want to do the work required to learn, they don't want to go down the educational path I guess they want things handed to them.

0 sats \ 23 replies \ @DarthCoin 28 Jan

Tor is only for watching porn... IMHO. not compatible with Bitcoin and especially with LN. VPNs yes are good.

30 sats \ 17 replies \ @expatriotic OP 29 Jan

I generally agree with you. Depends who you want to hid from. If you want to hide your traffic from your ISP and you bought Mullvad with no ID and paid with bitcoin or monero, then you're probably fine. If you're L0la or some journalist or buying drugs then Tor is your bet as it's actually anonymous, unlike VPNs which just shift trust. Just note that the NSA CAN see peep traffic through VPN, documents came out to this effect in 2013. Depending on if you want privacy from the US NSA or not. Also, good luck using Tor only services like Bisq or RoboSats without Tor lol, kind of a default. Unless you're like Darth with stacks of bitcoins he got from CPU mining 10 years ago. Some of us are still net buyers of bitcoins haha

0 sats \ 16 replies \ @DarthCoin 29 Jan

Some of us are still net buyers of bitcoins haha

hahaha change your job man, earn bitcoin not shitcoins.

9 sats \ 15 replies \ @expatriotic OP 29 Jan

Meh, I don't really need my job to pay me in bitcoins. Then I run the risk of them filing taxes on my behalf AND telling in one fell swoop the government that I own bitcoins and how much. No thanks. Also, let me know how many international schools pay teachers in bitcoins... Find me a job in my field (teacher) that pays $60,000 and covers 100% of my expenses and then we'll talk.

0 sats \ 14 replies \ @DarthCoin 29 Jan

keep paying taxes then, I don't mind. More sats for me :)

9 sats \ 4 replies \ @expatriotic OP 29 Jan

More sats for me :)

How do you get more sats if someone does or does not pay taxes? That extra money goes to the government. How do you get more sats if someone does or doesn't use monero... How is my money or choices at all related to how much bitcoins you do or don't have.

0 sats \ 3 replies \ @DarthCoin 29 Jan

because you have less money to buy more sats, meanwhile I am not letting them to steal my money, so I will have more sats in the end.

9 sats \ 2 replies \ @expatriotic OP 29 Jan

That's horrible logic. It doesn't work like that. My choices don't affect you.

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9 sats \ 8 replies \ @expatriotic OP 29 Jan

I pay 5% in China. And again, not really a choice as it's taken out and given to the Chinese government before it comes to me.

In Indonesia for 10 years I paid 0% which is common for a lot of schools in Asia looking for native English speaker teachers. The school paid 100% of the taxes and my contract was for a net income.

I then report that to the IRS and pay $0 with them as well. But collect my $3333 of their fake money. Put it into Bitcoin.

Why do you work so hard to try to convince everyone to be like you? Not everyone is in a place to quit their normie job, or even want to. That doesn't mean they're "afraid" as you like to say. It just means they're different then you. Show them enough respect to at least think they've put some thought into it. If you have practical ways people can opt out, fine. Just be ready when they push back with some nuance based on their personal circumstance, or more likely, tell you to fuck off and mind your own business.

0 sats \ 7 replies \ @DarthCoin 29 Jan

But collect my $3333 of their fake money.

That is double theft.

9 sats \ 6 replies \ @expatriotic OP 29 Jan

I don't really understand what this means. They are stealing from me twice? But I haven't paid Uncle Sam taxes once since I've started living abroad 10+ years ago...

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0 sats \ 4 replies \ @028559d218 28 Jan

I use both. Am I wrong to do that?

9 sats \ 0 replies \ @expatriotic OP 29 Jan

I'd use one or the other, unless you're in China like me where my network is on a router level VPN, so I can't help but use both sometimes.

0 sats \ 2 replies \ @DarthCoin 28 Jan

If you never go back to fiat, there's nothing to worry.

9 sats \ 1 reply \ @028559d218 28 Jan

Sorry, I meant VPN + TOR Also, I have never sold Bitcoin

9 sats \ 0 replies \ @expatriotic OP 29 Jan

Imagine having a bag of cash and never using it. Bitcoin and monero are peer to peer digital cash. If you're not using it, what's the point? I use Bitcoin all the time. And if I can't use it directly, I sell some for the currency I need. USD or EUR.

If you don't sell bitcoin ever, you're short bitcoin. Means you don't have your entire net worth in bitcoin.