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With @Rsync25 gone, it's made a significant dent in the bitcoin news, and external happenings, that are reported here. Several stackers had muted rsync, because they view SN more like a forum or message board than a place to find out what's going on in bitcoin and elsewhere. Personally, I miss them, because I view SN as both a place for me to figure out what's going on in bitcoin, and a place talk about those goings on. It also feels super insular without external stuff getting talked about which tends to be polarizing and self-reinforcing.
Admittedly, rsync's style of posting was kind of lazy. In most cases, they weren't reading what they were sharing, commenting on it, or digging up the ledes in stories that are often buried. Yet, it was also effortful, because they weren't only grabbing stuff from the same crusty publications repeatedly that other link posters do; rsync would grab from the mailing list, delving, small web blogs of bitcoiners, github, etc. So without them, I don't have much of an idea about what's going on in bitcoin and I suspect many of you don't either, unless I go hunt for it myself. For me, rsync's activity was a significant portion of the value I get from SN as a consumer.
I'd like to brainstorm ways to incentivize folks to do more of that kind of rsync-style relatively original story hunting rather than going to the homepage of arstechnica, statista, and quoting the articles verbatim. There are things I can do like removing the option to add discussion posts from my territories, or giving territory founders the option to bias ranking toward link posts, but maybe there's something else. I can also be the change I want to see too of course, by setting up some kind of RSS/email/X and nostr list notification system for myself and at least make it less time consuming to do rsync's work in their stead.
To be clear, I’m NOT recommending emulating them. I’m recommending improving on them.
Instead of thinking of this as a be-like-rsync post. Think of it as a post advocating for finding great external links to things.
Rsync was at their WORST when they posted links to things they didn’t use or understand.
They were 90% noise but we lost the other 10% when they left. If you can’t tell the difference between the 90 and the 10, this isn’t a call to action for you.
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I often think about how discrete SN is.
It's only going to take one stacker, who's really tapped into the goings on, to bring those to us. I'm sure someone will step up before too long.
@Coinsreporter has made a few attempts at daily curated news posts. Something like that seems promising: Bitcoin News You May Have Missed (por ejempo).
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Are you talking about "The Daily Zap"?
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That was the first, but you also tried one with sports news, right?
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Yeah! Thanks. I know there are only a few like you who enjoyed them. But most others here didn't even consider them to be even an effort. While TBH "The Daily Zap" usually took me around half an hour to just add the new links and the context. Plus you can include the time it took me to find out those pieces of News by searching on the web.
What many saw were just links for assmilking.
But they are not down because of the haters but they're on a break. I ran "The Daily Zap" as for experiment and TBH it was a successful attempt. I'll start posting it again after some time, this time it'll be bigger and better. The sports one will also be there for sure.
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I know they're tedious to make, from my time making the This Day in Stacker News posts.
What I'm imagining is that there will be someone who's already obsessed with reading all the latest news and the only extra effort will be the time it takes to write it up.
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Wow! I didn't know you also did something similar.
I'm quite obsessed of reading news and that was the reason I started "The Daily Zap". I'll restart them, it's as you know I got a little busy in parenting and putting in some efforts in some other business. Just not getting enough time to read news like I used to. It's only a matter of few more days. I'll bring them back.
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184 sats \ 1 reply \ @stack_harder 8h
I was always amazed that the apex assmiliking landed him top of rewards all the time, to me that seems like a total slap in the face to stackers that try to post content and value and promote engagement.
some guy, shitting out links, not even bothering to communicate.
that being said, couldn't someone just make a bot to do the same thing? I mean if it's bitcoin news curation, I'm sure you programming wizards could code something up to pool from whatever sources Ryan used to. surely there's some pattern to the sites he sourced from.
and really, if the value was one interesting article per ten shit sandwiches, there must be a way to distill that down
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But other link posters don't get nearly the same success. As k00b says, maybe it's coz Rsync tended to post more valuable links. That was certainly my experience
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41 sats \ 1 reply \ @jasonb 2h
@siggy47 has been doing this pretty well recently, no?
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100 sats \ 0 replies \ @siggy47 2h
Me, no. I'm very slow finding news stories. @Coinsreporter is pretty good
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I remember giving @Rsync25 some pretty big zaps on a few lazy link posts, simply because I got a lot of value from the link.
I agree with you, even though those these link posters seem bot like, they posted on subject matter I found valuable, and in some instances it led to real world benefits for me. I think I learned about GraphRAG from one of his links
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I do tend to hate Rsync's style of linkposting. I'm a believer in adding value to links, if only because the headline alone may not be enough (or may be deceptive), and things I share are still a part of my identity (this predates SN -- this has been my approach in Google Reader, in emails to friends, in chat, etc).
That said, I still clicked some links he posted (because they were often useful), and there's also something to be said for just having a decent amount of content here. And bitcoin news -- unlike, say, a cool science or sports story I want to share -- it stuff much more within the general area-of-interest for most folks here. If there were a good single-source publication/feed, I suppose an @HN-style bot might be a way to offer that, but I'm not sure there's anything like that (other than SN itself, and that would be recursive).
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163 sats \ 6 replies \ @Aardvark 20h
I personally didn't mind Rsync. While it is "lazy posting" because it's not adding anything to the conversation besides a link, it is still providing a service.
If you have any ideas as to what type of Rsyncesque type of content you want posted, I'd be happy to contribute, but personally I thought the bot did a pretty decent job.
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59 sats \ 1 reply \ @ek 20h
Which bot? @hn? It only posts from HN, it misses a lot of sources
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14 sats \ 0 replies \ @Aardvark 20h
No, I thought Rsync was a bot 🤯
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72 sats \ 3 replies \ @k00b OP 20h
afaik it wasn't a bot even if it was bot-like.
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147 sats \ 2 replies \ @Aardvark 20h
So Rsync was a user? Well shit, I learned something new.
I guess if you're looking for more news posts I can contribute. I'll just make sure I read and comment on it instead of just just dropping links.
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109 sats \ 1 reply \ @k00b OP 20h
They were routinely a top stacker, so there's a ecological niche that's unoccupied currently. They had a relatively poor selection process for what they posted so I imagine the ROI on their activity can be improved a lot too.
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Agreed. People should just post a poll on links. Was this article useful Yes/No. Then it's painless to voice your opinion and easier to get a sense of what SN likes.
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131 sats \ 1 reply \ @kruw 20h
Rsync is an example of the exact kind of user you DON'T want on stacker news. Leeching every possible topic without providing any context or input is the worst possible outcome a site like this can produce.
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14 sats \ 0 replies \ @k00b OP 20h
In their absence, no one is posting the high quality stuff they occasionally did post is what I'm saying. I'm not saying I want more people who don't give a shit. I'm saying I want more people trying. They were at least trying.
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I have not ever read a post that is just a link. Why should I read it if the poster didn’t read it himself? The evidence of the reading is that there was a quote, the lede or the core proposition of the article and some sort of comment. If a poster cannot do that or give some sort of original content, it is nice to see the title but for reading the link, I will always take a pass.
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I prefer less spam / noise but important news. If is a good "news" it will be published on SN. If is not on SN,. it means is not important. rsync was posting 99% meaningless and sometimes even garbage links.
I don't have much of an idea about what's going on in bitcoin and I suspect many of you don't either
From noise you will never know more, but you will fill your time with garbage.
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30 sats \ 2 replies \ @k00b OP 20h
The "good news" tends to be overreported, retweeted for days on X, by the time it ends up here is one of the problems I've noticed.
Stackers aren't determining what's newsworthy often enough themselves. They're waiting for all of bitcoin's influencers to tell them what's worth paying attention to. At least if all the noise is posted here, the sats eventually filter it out.
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I am subscribed / read many other Bitcoin sources but I do not post them without reading just for the sake of posting links. For example I get many github releases but 99% of the time are just meaningless updates that is not necessary to share on SN. Indeed if there's a big release of changes in bitcoin app and worth share it I will do it.
Bitcoin Optech is the most important source if you are interested in the tech level updates. So if you are subscribed to that, you get it anyways. Is an important info in the Optech newsletter? OK, then we share it here.
Many other sources are just repeating the same shit about price and twitter drama... that is not important.
And sats will never select the noise from signal. Spammers will make noise anyways because THEY ARE PAID TO DO THAT NOISE. And other losers are repeating that noise thinking that can grab some sats.
Is kind of chicken and egg problem.
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hilarious but true
I need to check what is trending on X and Nostr
I recently signed up for Lyn Alden's newsletter
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Are we missing much of the news I would think most is still coming in ? Maybe a bit slower then when he was doing it and spread more in the territories
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23 sats \ 7 replies \ @ek 20h
I guess Rsync25 was more like Rsync24.
I bet nobody gets the joke.
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19 sats \ 5 replies \ @k00b OP 20h
I had to search for it, but the missing file error?
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0 sats \ 4 replies \ @ek 20h
No but interesting. Is there an error code 24 in rsync if a file is missing?
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10 sats \ 3 replies \ @k00b OP 20h
It's a warning but it exits with errno 24 if a file has vanished while transfering.
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22 sats \ 2 replies \ @ek 20h
Ah. I’ll post the explanation of my joke in an hour.
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21 sats \ 1 reply \ @plebpoet 19h
all the best jokes require explanation :)
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @ek 12h
👀
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60 sats \ 0 replies \ @ek 19h
Explanation: They left just a few days into 2025
The joke would be "even better" if they joined in 2024 but they didn't. Or I could say they peaked in 2024.
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I am pretty sure the person wasnt a bot. He would answer occasionally.
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15 sats \ 1 reply \ @siggy47 2h
I agree. I had a few conversations with him. My impression was that English wasn't his native language and he seemed reluctant to have long exchanges. Even so, the responses weren't bot-like.
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50 sats \ 0 replies \ @Satosora 2h
He never had long replies. I felt if he had time he would comment back. I just dont understamd how he was able to make it economical. Which it probably wasnt after ccs came out.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Catcher 4h
They craziest part about this story is that he was not a bot=)
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I like more value from a post, not just an automated proxy from external source, if something is important, it will show up here.
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I'll bite.
What new improvements would you like to see?
Let's try to keep "AI summaries" out.
I'll list the sources in the bio as I gather them.
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The public in general: woke ideology is a danger to the young people in society we must stop it.
Trump: wokeness stops today
The public in general: well, we should let people express themselves if they want to
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Car 18h
I agree someone should step up in Rsync place but I think it would be wrong to get every stacker to being more like them.
I actually miss Super on SN more than Rsync cause at this point he doesn’t exist in my online world. 🐼
Communities are tuff to manage but you got to let the stackers decide what it wants to be. Also new people will always come in to fill the void eventually. Don’t worry @k00b it will all be fine.
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I prefer discussion. I don’t miss it.
But yea I don’t use SN as my “front page of the Bitcoin internet”
That’s still X to me
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Very honest!
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Hmm.. You can tell me which websites they used to post from, and I could post for you. I can imagine how busy you are all day working, so taking news from here or a few sources is understandable.
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14 sats \ 1 reply \ @k00b OP 20h
There isn't a single list of websites. That's part of the problem. If there's a single list of websites there's not much reason for SN to exist. The main quality of rsync that I appreciated is that they were hunting for more novel sources - not operating off a few publications.
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Gotcha, so they were posting from different sources and don't rely on only a few? Well, that is very difficult. Maybe @Rsync25 was an enthusiastic web surfer. Still, I will try to post some news related to Bitcoin if I find that it needs attention. Thanks.
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @Roll 20h
why did he live ?
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16 sats \ 0 replies \ @k00b OP 20h
He might've had a life change or got bored or believed CCs were the plague.
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I too miss them. I even tried my hand at curating some news but what they were actually doing is quite the job!! I mean you could rely on them for the best and all news.
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9 sats \ 1 reply \ @k00b OP 19h
To be clear, I’m NOT recommending emulating them. I’m recommending improving on them. They were at their WORST when they posted links to things they didn’t use or understand.
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I understand. I doubt I can be anywhere close to them by way of emulating them. I'm not a technical guy like them. But by being on SN, I've come to know a little bit what Stackers would like to read. So, I'll try but I'll mostly post what I understand.
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