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It sounds like these guys are very good, like 10,000+ hours worth of practice, at convincing you they aren't a scammer. At this point, the more legit the call seems, the more suspicious we should be.
Good point. A highly professional call might be a red flag.
I imagine most companies won't try very hard to convince you they are legit at least and probably aren't in a rush.
Yeah, in one legit call from a bank, they just asked for my PII before they even introduced themselves, lol
They seemed surprised that I wanted to confirm we were looking at the same document.
I think the urgency is what gets most people. They create a panic emotion and people don't think clearly under pressure.
I was almost duped by a scammer on Telegram recently.
He or she sends me a message: how is it going?
my reply: I have to evacuate today
scammer: do you have time to chat before you evacuate?
me: no, fuck you and fuck off
userInfoBot is a great tool for unmasking users on Telegram
Data only eSIMs are the way
What, no phone number is the answer to phone based scams? LOL. Sure does cut off a big vector but most people still need a phone number. VOIP numbers have the same issues.
People can call through encrypted messaging apps, for unsolicited contact there's email. Phone numbers are an anachronism.
No argument on that point. The phone system is deeply flawed.
Not having a phone number is definitely the way
I think I once got a call from the FBI and I just hung up thinking if it’s really them, they probably have better ways to contact me than through a cold call lol
I once got a call from someone posing as a CRA (Canada Revenue Agency) agent trying to claim I owed back taxes and if I didn't pay immediately they would press charges. I said something to the effect of "I am glad you called did you get my T5063 amendment in the mail". And the guy goes on again about how I owe these taxes. And I reply "yes, I understand but if you review the T5063 amendment I sent you, you will see you actually owe me $5000 dollars, so when can I expect my payment?" and the guy hung up. That was fun.
Exactly. I default to only answering known numbers.
I just default to assuming everyone who calls me that I don't know is a scammer. Email too. I once had an issue with my Amex credit card and they called me about it. I didn't believe them so I hung up and called the phone number on the back of the card and it turned out to be true but better safe than sorry.