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20 sats \ 14 replies \ @Undisciplined 9h \ parent \ on: Should We Worship Lincoln? BooksAndArticles
There's a bit of nuance to be had here. Lincoln was personally opposed to slavery (his preference was to ship all the blacks back to Africa). However, it's entirely uncontroversial that he was willing to accept slavery, if that's what would keep the union together (bad priorities).
Yep this ^^
More importantly than his personal beliefs is the fact that the US was the only nation to fight a war over slavery vs. eliminate it peacefully. The modern man just thinks we had to fight a war to end it...
History is not as simple and neat / clean as they teach you in government schools.
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As I said, Lincoln was only interested in money, money and more money. If we had settled the slavery problem as most countries did, by buying all the chattel and setting them free, it would have been expensive for the federal government. In their times, slaves were very expensive items, a couple of thousand and up when gold was twenty dollars an ounce. At least 100 ounces of gold for a slave. Think of that price to buy out all the slaveholders. BTW, who do you guess THEY were?
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I honestly do not get why so many people get their panties in a wad about saying anything critical about Lincoln. He was very unpopular before he was murdered and when you read critical revisionist history about him sourced from his own writing the picture becomes clear.
As you and others stated mainstream historians when pressed will not debate that Lincoln was more concerned about the union than slavery. That he had advocated for sending them to Africa.
I think criticizing Lincoln shows the religious type of relationship most Americans have with the state. Its like saying Jesus was married to a Christian. Its just appalling. Lincoln is akin to a deity in the religion of the state.
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Yes, you have hit the nail on the head, there. It is Lincoln worship as one of the demiurges of the state in the state religion. To attack Lincoln, or even mention that he was less than perfect is heresy. That kind of religious political heresy is just not taught or expressed in ”polite” society, now-a-days.
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I fact checked it and found it to be true. Sorry, I didn't know books could be that wrong. Thanks.
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Thanks for taking the effort to look into it.
You may want to seek different sources than the ones you used, though.
There are a lot of sources better than the mouthpiece of the CIA: CNNLOL, but even they had to admit to the truth, at least this once.
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That's true, but at the same time, it's worth knowing how much is not even disputed by the intentional propagandists.
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Yes, you could say, then, that this is an indisputable fact, right? Except, there is someone out there that will dispute it because their hero, Just didn’t do that kind of thing!!!!!
I have to say, it, along with other evidence of other things he said and did, doesn’t paint a pretty picture of Lincoln
There is a lot of denial and court history out there floating around, though.
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You may want to look into the DNC emails that were published by Wikileaks. Many people who work for CNN are literally operatives for the DNC. It's almost entirely a propaganda outlet.
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Thank heavens for Wikileaks and Julian Assange for the information that we need but will not see from any state. I hadn’t known that there was hard evidence for CNNLOL operatives being also DNC operatives as well as CIA operatives. Just makes me wonder how tied up with the CIA the DNC is, doesn’t it? There are just too many overlaps to be co-inky-dense.
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None. Gotta go to the original sources to find reliability.
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His priorities, from his own hand and mouth, were money, money and more money for the Union by way of the tariffs and imposts collected at all ports by the federal government. He wanted them collected at all ports, including both the North and South. And to top it all off, he pursued a barbaric unjust war. A war that even Hitler thought was barbaric. Is this what heroes do? Or is this what the court historians say heroes do?
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