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0 sats \ 6 replies \ @Rothbardian_fanatic OP 16 Jan \ parent \ on: Preventable Deaths And Vitamin D3 BooksAndArticles

Several problems: I don’t have any references off hand that I can refer you to. You may want to try non-official nutraceutical sources. Next, vitamin D3 is not a foreign substance to your body. Your body makes it, itself when exposed to powerful enough sunlight. Apparently, your body will make up to 25K IU of D3 in an hour sunlight exposure for the full body. There is plenty of anecdotal evidence about the efficacy of D3 but not so many peer reviewed studies, if you trust those. There is no profit for companies to tell you that D3 helps your immune system work.

20 sats \ 5 replies \ @south_korea_ln 16 Jan

Thanks for the answer.

Yes, it's not a foreign substance, but there are plenty of compounds are body produces that are good at their natural dose and become toxic at higher dose. E.g. glutamate, which is produced in the brain from glucose. Poor choice of words, I should not have called in foreign, my bad.

There is plenty of anecdotal evidence about the efficacy of D3 but not so many peer-reviewed studies, if you trust those.

First, there are many peer-reviewed studies showing the efficacy of D3 (as illustrated by the metastudy i linked before). But I imagine here you meant at high dose. Indeed, for that, we need to go for anecdotes.

Well, it's not that I trust peer-reviewed studies. As an academic, I know how many peer-reviewed but flawed studies end up being published. But it's the best system we have, despite its many flaws (I've posted about these flaws here, many times).

Anecdotical evidence is a good starting point to inspire new studies, but not so much to make an informed decision. At least for me. Especially at high doses. Especially where actual studies show that high doses can be bad for you. For anything related, as a starting point, I'll give the biggest credence to meta-studies. They are usually done by the good scientists, with a good understanding of statistics, and are not funded by big pharma as big pharma has no incentive to possibly discredit studies they benefit from.

If mainstream medicine doesn't help me, I'll for sure look into alternative options, if I am on the brink of death without a reasonable way out, or with a incurable disease that will have a big impact on my well-being. So, I don't disregard this kind of treatment by default, but only as a last resort. Luckily, I never had to make such a choice.

I understand and respect people who are into alternative medicine. Even the ones that don't do it out of necessity. They are providing valuable data points for our future understanding of how the body works.

There is no profit for companies to tell you that D3 helps your immune system work.

Except, there is. Vitamin D3 has been prescribed to my wife. In the context of two diseases related to her immune system. In Korea. A country which is very mainstream in terms of medicine. Vitamin D3 is readily available, as illustrated by the many multinationals that produce it. You don't need to go to some shady alchemist to get your dose of vitamins. Supplements in general are big business. They even prescribe a majority of supplements that have no proven track record.

0 sats \ 4 replies \ @Rothbardian_fanatic OP 16 Jan

I beg to differ on peer-review studies, they are mostly garbage. If the science is being done there are more experiments to either falsify or confirm the first trial. I would tend to trust that process, but peer-review — no thanks. Another thing about peer-reviewed studies is that they are all done within the paradigm, which denies anything outside of the paradigm’s boundaries. As they say, it takes a generation for the old paradigm to die along with its practitioners. I have found that some of the alternative medicines work very well for diseases like cancer, from personal experience. The allopathic doctors recommended surgery, chemo but not radiation for my wife. We went another way and fixed the problem.

20 sats \ 3 replies \ @south_korea_ln 16 Jan

As an academic, I'm obviously very much biased. And I know many are garbage. Even in my field of expertise, it takes years of practice to know which authors are trustworthy and which ones are not. And indeed, the peer-review system is very much flawed, but I'm still waiting for a better system to implement and assess the scientific method. So for now, I'll stick with those, but reading them with a very critical mind. Hence my reference to the meta-studies.

Very happy you guys found another way. Even mainstream doctors in many countries agree that intrusive medicine sometimes do more harm than good. That's why in many European countries, they won't do full-body scans (in Korea, unfortunately, we do, coz it's more money for the hospital who has to validate buying such expensive equipment). This kind of scans usually always show something unusual. And "peer-reviewed" studies have shown that, in some cases, the mere fact of detecting those weird looking stuff increased mortality rate by having people get unnecessary surgery.

Enjoyable discussion. Thank you. I need to go for a meeting and then work on my "peer-reviewed" study as well as referee someone else's paper after that, so might only read you later at night.

137 sats \ 2 replies \ @Rothbardian_fanatic OP 16 Jan

My wife had a MRI scan both before and after our alternate treatments. She also had biopsies before and after the treatments. It took us 4 or 5 months to cure the problem. We did this through research on the internet and application of something called “The Dirt Cheap Protocols”. The curious thing that happened was that the allopathic doctors involved showed a markedly lack of interest in what we did. It was almost as if they knew that there were alternative methods of curing the problem. She has had no relapses or signs of return in 7 years, now. I think I have even better methods now that I have paid attention to it over those 7 years. I am very confident that if anything happens to anyone in my family, we could take care of it. This also probably indicates why none of us submitted to the inoculations that the government was trying to push onto us. I guess you could say we are ”pure bloods”.