How Is Shipping Handled? \ stacker news ~AGORA

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837 sats \ 26 comments \ @siggy47 1 Jan AGORA

I have been thinking about this territory a lot lately. I'm trying to figure out the nuts and bolts for setting up smooth transactions. The guide didn't mention anything about delivery or shipping ideas. Perhaps I missed it. For physical goods travelling long distances, domestic or international, I'm sure this gets complicated. In addition to costs, methods, etc, I'm sure privacy is a major issue for both parties.

How is this typically addressed?

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123 sats \ 0 replies \ @BlokchainB 1 Jan

I am curious to know if anyone has used bitcoin escrow to complete sales?

127 sats \ 11 replies \ @k00b 1 Jan

We plan to add end to end encrypted comments. Shipping/order info will be shared in comments like that

15 sats \ 3 replies \ @siggy47 OP 1 Jan

This is great news for so many use cases. It will be a game changer.

384 sats \ 2 replies \ @k00b 1 Jan

For sure. We plan to do some weird stuff like this with “dms.”

On “marketplace” posts, you’ll be able to leave regular comments or place an order which basically begins an end to end encrypted comment thread branch with the seller.

41 sats \ 0 replies \ @AG 1 Jan

wow 👀

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Fabs 1 Jan

That's mighty dope.

41 sats \ 0 replies \ @AG 1 Jan

Looking forward to it :) Sound's a great feature for the new year coming

0 sats \ 5 replies \ @Natalia 1 Jan

this is not helping the sender who needs to send the goods tho, and shipping/order info can be easily solved when paid at their product site.

0 sats \ 4 replies \ @k00b 1 Jan

You mean shipping isn’t handled for them?

28 sats \ 3 replies \ @Natalia 1 Jan

no, I mean as a seller, you would dox yourself in certain ways; the only secure way is what @Undisciplined said, if you are selling any physical products.

69 sats \ 2 replies \ @AG 1 Jan

The seller dox itself when the sender address is placed in the parcel as return addres. In reality, you can use an address that is not related. A PO box is not always accepted. We have been looking into this and there are services that handle such things for you maintaining sender privacy safe.

However, it's a a complicated topic because there are many factors that influence pricing and delivery times. Without considering the privacy aspect, returns, refunds...

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @Natalia 1 Jan

The seller dox itself when the sender address is placed in the parcel as return addres.

Also, when the seller pays for shipping --> the cargo company might know what you are doing, where the cargo is being sent out --> the customer knows which city you live in, etc.

In reality, you can use an address that is not related.

correct.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @AG 1 Jan

Also, when the seller pays for shipping

Not if paid in bitcoin or the worse case fiat cash. Obviously it depends on also if KYC is required, I know some countries now ask for ID at the post office (unbelievable!)

There are ways, anyway, to preserve privacy when sending

41 sats \ 0 replies \ @nym 1 Jan

The end-user could also get it shipped to an Amazon box in the city to avoid Doxing your home address.

0 sats \ 11 replies \ @Fabs 1 Jan

Simply add your details in the comment-section of a tx, no?

100 sats \ 2 replies \ @Undisciplined 1 Jan

I guess that keeps your name and nym separated, because the invoice wouldn't say who it's from.

30 sats \ 0 replies \ @Natalia 1 Jan

this, and perhaps don't focus on Bitcoiners only, better for the buyers as well, and I could be wrong.

22 sats \ 0 replies \ @Fabs 1 Jan

This, and you only ship to people who have already paid in-full beforehand, making it easier to keep track of who has paid - and thus, is eligible for shipping -, and who hasn't yet.

0 sats \ 7 replies \ @siggy47 OP 1 Jan

Is that what people have been doing?

41 sats \ 6 replies \ @Fabs 1 Jan

That's what I'd do.

0 sats \ 5 replies \ @siggy47 OP 1 Jan

If you don't mind me asking, how do you handle your bag sales?

41 sats \ 4 replies \ @Fabs 1 Jan

Not. I've yet to finalize the design / fabric choice.

I'm close to finishing, but things have been quiet for a few weeks now, as there's still holidays here, which means that retailers / companies are down until next week-ish.

I hope to be sewing before March.

0 sats \ 3 replies \ @Fabs 1 Jan

But I'll create a Shopify-store and add BTC Pay to my payment options, thus it'll most likely be handled by the generated invoices of BTC Pay.

0 sats \ 2 replies \ @AG 1 Jan

isn't easier with shopstr or cypher.space? Why Soapify?

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @Fabs 1 Jan

I saw that BTC Pay is integrated there, and the tutorial seems easy.

I haven't looked into anything else other than Etsy yet, what are the pro's of the two you mentioned?

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