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0 sats \ 83 replies \ @justin_shocknet 19 Dec \ parent \ on: Covenant support comparison by Vortex bitcoin
Drivechains are literally on the page you ref'd, but yes agree it's every bit as retarded as VTXO's (sidechains by another name)
Lightning is not offline, if it was offline you'd have one less item to sell on your shitfork... Literally one of the biggest grievances in lightning is the online-ness requirement, jfc you're dumb.
Everything has trade-offs, learn this and maybe you won't buy into forker scams
Drivechains are on page you mentioned
lol no Paul was just one of the many devs who voiced their opinion, literally any bitcoin dev is free to do so
Lightning is not offline
HTLCs allow for conditional payments to be securely routed across multiple participants without requiring all parties to be online simultaneously, this means you can be offline, obviously there's risks of channel closure but HTLCs absolutely enable "offlineness". Once again, try reading the BIPs.
There's nothing to "buy into", LNhance is merely a group of op codes to make bitcoin better which you would know if you ever actually read anything.
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You keep saying read the bips because you don't know what you're talking about enough to refute me, pathetic... read them yourself.
You cannot make a signature while offline, you can not broadcast a signature offline, you can not monitor for disputes while offline. Therefore, you can not use bitcoin when you're offline, no script kiddie can change that.
You've bought into false narratives with wasted time and energy. Sad.
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You cannot make a signature while offline
Yes but LN still enables a level of 'offlineness' by relying on the pre-signed txs and HTLCs. Once a channel is setup participants don't actually need to stay online constantly to keep the channel valid, watchtowers or similar services can monitor for disputes. Once again if you've actually read the BIPs you'd know this.
You can't even be bothered to read the simplest of BIPs. Sad.
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watchtowers
are online, you muppet
offline-ness = trust, your shitfork can't fix that
You, over and over and over and over again: "READ THE BIPS BECAUSE I CAN'T UNDERSTAND THEM MYSELF"
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offline-ness = a presigned tx
Maybe I keep saying read the BIPs cause it's clear you have no idea what you're talking about.
You haven't read utxos.org/uses, you haven't read any of the BIPs, you don't understand vaults, you don't understand lightning's HTLCs, and you expect to be taken seriously?
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presigned tx = needs to be online to be broadcasted
So pathetic you don't understand even a little bit what you're proposing, typical shitcoiner.
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Your exact phrase was "offline-ness" not 100% offline. You keep bringing up altcoins which have nothing to do with op codes, I've literally never held an altcoin in my life which is why I clearly know more about bitcoin than you.
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Don't hurt yourself moving those goalposts, clearly you can't ameliorate the online-ness requirement of lightning with your fake L2.
It's a miracle you got logged onto the internet at all, nevermind Bitcoin.