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331 sats \ 22 replies \ @k00b 9 Dec 2024 \ on: The Fallacy of Store of Value vs. Medium of Exchange bitcoin
I'd add to this that some of the VC funded companies in Bitcoin, even those championed by the vanguard and vanguard's influencers, have premised their businesses on Bitcoin not succeeding as a MoE.
I'd also recommend @roy's SoV and MoE post. It's the best I've read on this.
Yeah, that makes sense. Thanks @k00b. I mean, it isn't a MoE yet and who knows how long it will be until it is so as a VC it might be a good bet. VCs aren't thinking as long term as bitcoiners IMO.
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I think good VCs are going to bet all over the place, trusting the founders to be making the right calls. I don't mean to criticize them or the founders of those companies, only to call attention to incentives that run counter to bitcoin being a MoE producing such narratives.
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Yeah, totally.
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@roy's article is much better than mine. He probably spent more time on it and is smarter than me :).
I only have one beef. I don't think you can say bitcoin is a MoE yet. Not in the way I hear economists describe MoE. As I stated in my post.
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Great stuff @kepford 👏👏👏
Since we 100% agree on the bottom line, the rest is kinda semantics lol (but we can definitely discuss it if you want).
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Nah, you're right. It is 100% semantics but some seem to not get that angle. Language is not math lol. Its why I am ways hated what they now call "language arts" in US schools.
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Dang, didn't realize how alike our titles are. I missed this post. No way I would have seen this and not zapped it. Thanks.
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Wait... which ones???
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All the Bitcoin-related companies I've used and purchased things from... took Bitcoin as payment. All of them on-chain but some of them Lightning too. That's MoE...
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See... this is where people get confused. All of the econ people I have read define MoE and a generally accepted medium for goods and services. Its all down to how you define the term. It sounds like the way you are using the term stocks could be a MoE since you can use services and covert stocks to dollars and dollars to stocks.
I think I defined MoE in a limited way on purpose to avoid this confusion. When you talk to normies about bitcoin they almost ask if they can buy stuff with it. Yeah, they can. But what are the chances that the store down the street accepts it? Small. They hear currency and think of other currencies they know about like the dollar.
When you try to tell them its a medium of exchange when it really isn't yet you lose them before you have them. That's my point. We often miss the bigger point.
The point is that adoption is the barrier. Not some flaw in bitcoin.
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Bitcoin will not be a widespread medium of exchange until people
- are more comfortable talking about it
- stop calling it a scam all the time (like most Western newspapers)
- and stop getting burned by 'crypto-scams' on tik-tok (like the spitting hawk thing)
All of this improves with education which will take time.
Beyond that Bitcoin needs to be more stable and have better total market penetration... and imo Bitcoin's total addressable market is huge. It is all digital businesses, resources, store-fronts, and capital. It's really big.
And once a large percentage of that has been capitalized... the volatility will decrease and be more practical to use as MoE. But that's not today it will take time, education being the precursor... leading to SoV leading to daily-use leading to market penetration leading to MoE.
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Here's the deal. When people start asking or talking about bitcoin you usually only have a few moments before you lose their attention. Easy to get bogged down in stuff that they don't care about or understand.
I don't think I have ever used the phrase "medium of exchange" when talking to a no-coiner. Most people have no clue what that even is...
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A few times when I've brought up Bitcoin to people... they've been receptive (which is cool!).
And then I see them the next day and they're like 'ya so I bought some dogecoin or Shiba Inu coin on Coinbase! "Elon is going to pump them! Have you heard the recent Tesla news?!" (I've had someone tell me exactly this... like this exact situation.)
And at which point I'm just like kinda speechless lol.
Just to be clear... people are 100% free to do what they want with their money and time... but if they're buying Shiba Inu, even Doge to leave on Coinbase i'm not sure they're ready yet.
Oh, I didn't mean all bitcoin companies are betting on bitcoin failing as a non-custodial MoE - just some. I also don't mean it's wrong to place such bets. It just plays a role in our narratives and most of us don't realize it.
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Yes, this is a good point. I think Saylor often says things in different ways to different audiences. I'm not defending him, just an observation. He's a prime example of the effect of incentives on how companies talk about bitcoin.
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If M Saylor came out on CNBC... and started talking openly and directly about Bitcoin 'replacing the dollar' or 'competing directly with the dollar as a global safe haven'...
Right or wrong, good bad or indifferent he would get phone calls. Probably from a lot of people.
Even if he believes those things (and maybe he does maybe he doesn't) he absolutely cannot say them in public.
when you are a blind bitcoiner follower of influencers, just listen to Darth's voice leading to the light...
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