31 sats \ 14 replies \ @orangecheckemail_isthereany 15h \ on: Do People Actually Believe the Election Result will Result in Positive Change based
Elon seems to think that this particular election makes a pretty big difference.
Might be worth looking into what he is saying about it.
The election making a big difference for Elon's wallet is not the same thing as the election making an actual difference for people as a whole.
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If it goes right he's got a Department of Efficiency to run. I actually find that pretty exciting. Imagine 80-90% of government costs eliminated. Sure there'd be struggles but imagine when the government is able to ship features again.
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🍿 for sure
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DOGE will be funded by tariffs on Chinese EV imports.
Good for Elons Tesla that cannot otherwise compete with Chinese EVs.
Looks like crony capitalism to me.
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I'm aware. You may be missing my point.
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Elons Tesla cannot survive the oncoming competition from Chinese EV manufacturers without Donalds Tariffs.
China has won the trade war- US/western world manufacturing cannot compete on productive efficiency grounds with China - USA the land of the free market is stooping to market rigging protective tariffs to buy time and they are the historical tactic preceding war.
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I guess you don't see that the United States is unable to do business and sell things in China.
It's not because our products suck.
It's because we've created an environment where business is overwhelmed with legal nonsense and we can't have slaves working on projects unless we imprison them.
It's pretty simple.
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There is a lot of truth in that.
Empires often rise while their citizens lack the rights of more advanced nations.
The US had slavery once.
As an empire gains dominion and the wealth that goes with it, its citizens demand more and more rights and that eventually tips the balance in favour of a new aspirant...
This is what appears to be happening again.
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The US still has slavery. Don't fool yourself. The largest consumer of child sex slavery is the United States. Also the sex slavery in general. But make no mistake New Zealand and other Western states share in this.
Indentured servitude had been the Hallmark of civilization.
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So how has China won the trade war?
Elon is hitching his wagon to Trump because Trump will circle the wagons and impose tariffs upon Chinese EVs.
So much for US capitalism and free markets.
China has beaten the west at its own game- capitalism.
The Chinese government still directs capital flows toward productive enterprise and infrastructure, like the US and west once did.
In the US/west- capital now directs governments.
That's crony capitalism. It's not competitive.
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China has already won the trade war in terms of mobilising its labour and resources to absolutely dominate the manufacture of most products and as a result also having huge influence over the global commodity markets.
All other nations are now hugely reliant upon China for both supply of manufactured goods/supply chains and the sale of their commodity exports.
The same can no longer be said for USA. It only still dominates via its legacy capture and control of international institutions and protocols. IMF, World Bank, SWIFT etc.
China is building its alternative tertiary level competitors to those legacy US instruments of empire...and China influence is expanding while the US is in retreat.
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What you state here is true but we are going to stop buying crap. What you are not seeing is that many Americans are making our own things. We are minimizing what we want. We don't need Swift or Brics. We've got Bitcoin.
Also the AI scam is just a way to prevent Bitcoin hash from increasing. The chips that weren't available for cars went to Bitcoin mining and now it's a play to get the chips back into Fiat.
We don't need cheap Chinese bullshit. If anything the Chinese products are getting too expensive!
Our clothes come from Vietnam, India, Thailand, Mexico. Most luxury brands are Chinese.
Anyway... Nice discussion. I wish you well.