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E cash privacy nuances
595 sats \ 28 comments \ @byzantine 27 Oct 2024 AskSN
If ecash sender and receiver is private from the mint is the redemption process of the ecash for lightning sats private?
Does the mint know who sent it sats to mint ecash with?
does the mint know who redeemed the ecash to send out via lightning?
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10 sats \ 1 reply \ @flat24 27 Oct 2024
Is Ecash more private than Monero? 🤔🥷
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @037447d9ca 27 Oct 2024
yes but it's custodial
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @SpaceHodler 27 Oct 2024
The mint processes LN deposits and redemptions are LN withdrawals. So your privacy in both cases is the same as the privacy of the corresponding LN tx. Namely, deposits are private, because the sender is private. Withdrawals link to the receiving node.
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0 sats \ 22 replies \ @ek 27 Oct 2024
Sender privacy is good on lightning. Receiver privacy is not. So withdrawing from a mint associates the receiver node pubkey with you
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1 sat \ 8 replies \ @anon 27 Oct 2024
Wath do u mean with that? What do you know if I give you this: lnurl1dp68gurn8ghj7ampd3kx2ar0veekzar0wd5xjtnrdakj7tnhv4kxctttdehhwm30d3h82unvwqhhx6tcdp6kycmpwqenwwafz69
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0 sats \ 7 replies \ @DarthCoin 27 Oct 2024
That is a WoS account. It means it is LOCKED to your mobile IMEI because WoS app cannot be installed without Google services. It means you are kind of tracked, or at least you use a disposable device. NEVER use apps that require google services.
Try yourself here: https://lightningdecoder.com/lnurl1dp68gurn8ghj7ampd3kx2ar0veekzar0wd5xjtnrdakj7tnhv4kxctttdehhwm30d3h82unvwqhhx6tcdp6kycmpwqenwwafz69
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0 sats \ 6 replies \ @anon 27 Oct 2024
And form this? lnbc250n1pn3uaylpp5xal4wjntfnjvf0k9yxktksvj2wfjlx7m4n66ty2psx5tlla5aumqdqqcqzzsxqrrssrzjqgc2t099trn8g9rqcy7axnnrdk3gu540myw0j0dc0mgmqwf2w3nwhapyqqqqqqqdl5qqqqqqqqqq86qq2qsp5v4zls44d9jkmh62yl724j8raya7qtx0dwnsxqun0cnw3g7x0q9tq9qxpqysgqf784uwgspwsrzfwea8nwnk5qzt07qj6w6wd6gff7x0tm427pzmqjmajjcnlz8fusplk68q4enhzyr753p855yzmt0d4lr7wauxd54ucpqnpp2n
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0 sats \ 5 replies \ @DarthCoin 27 Oct 2024
try it yourself in https://lightningdecoder.com/
You will see there the destination of your node. But that doesn't mean we can find you, your location or who you are. It could be very easily a private node.
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0 sats \ 4 replies \ @Aeiou 28 Oct 2024
Why the people say that an invoice can expose the utxo that founded the channel @DarthCoin?
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @byzantine OP 27 Oct 2024
so the mint knows which token was associated with which pubkey sats withdrawal but does not know which node sent in the sats
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0 sats \ 6 replies \ @anon 27 Oct 2024
Why did you say the receiver privacy is not good?
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22 sats \ 5 replies \ @ek 27 Oct 2024
@DarthCoin explained in #742276.
Another privacy issue with LN in general is that HTLCs use the same payment hash for every hop so surveillance nodes could track payments which happen to route through them. PTLCs fix that.
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0 sats \ 3 replies \ @Aeiou 27 Oct 2024
@ek I don't think he explained well. Can you explain it to me?
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0 sats \ 2 replies \ @ek 27 Oct 2024
What did you not understand in his explanation?
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @Aeiou 27 Oct 2024
Why the receiver privacy is not good in the lightning network?
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @anon 27 Oct 2024
No, It didn't. So, can you explain?
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0 sats \ 4 replies \ @DarthCoin 27 Oct 2024
hmmm that's why SN wants to be the "interceptor" for all so called p2p zaps in SN? To find out each stacker node?
hehehe that's why I like to run decoy nodes and wallets. Nice try SN, 😂😂😂😂
Receiver privacy is not.
Now with blinded paths, yes.
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0 sats \ 3 replies \ @ek 27 Oct 2024
I assume you want me to assume you’re not trolling again?
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0 sats \ 2 replies \ @DarthCoin 27 Oct 2024
define trolling
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @ek 27 Oct 2024
what you’re doing 👀
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21 sats \ 0 replies \ @DarthCoin 27 Oct 2024
what am I doing? commenting your posts? Is that not allowed here? I paid for it, remember? Or now all comments are considered trolling ? Ok let's rename SN into "pay to troll" then.
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @byzantine OP 27 Oct 2024 freebie
i ask these questions when thinking about an ecash wallet where you have a username.
what activity do they know about you when using ecash and moving from lightning to ecash on that wallets platform?