This article is so good, although I always say that about Taibbi's work. It's also scary as hell. Since I subscribe to his substack, I don't know how much of this other stackers can read. Maybe this is a good advertisement for Matt to get you to subscribe. Value for value. We just have to somehow orange pill him next.
124 sats \ 1 reply \ @kepford 26 Oct
Been saying this for a while. No matter the election outcome our problems will remain. People have been psyoped into a state of fear and hatred. We are stupidly divided. There is a struggle for power but the damage is done. I think it is just a matter of time until we see states beaking off. If that doesn't happen will we see more open violence break out. I'm not cheering this on.
Just get prepared for it.
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43 sats \ 0 replies \ @kepford 26 Oct
I will add, I have been involved locally with rational people working on ideas for helping people realign their thinking. I firmly believe the root issue is the state being an idol. A false god. And there is competition for favor. Christian and Non-Christian alike are in this psyop.
People have to shift their vision away from this false god. It's like the One Ring. It's a trap. It's a trick. It corrupts us.
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113 sats \ 14 replies \ @siggy47 OP 26 Oct
Nothing happened yet. To sum it up, MSM is preparing citizens for the possibility that a post election military crackdown might be necessary for us to "keep our freedoms and save democracy."
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71 sats \ 1 reply \ @justin_shocknet 26 Oct
They're telling you what already happened, somewhat behind the scenes, and is about to be disclosed in a scripted format (psyop) for the public as if it were happening today.
"The insurrection on Jan 6" they clutch their pearls over is a dog-whistle for insiders, that's when Trump invoked the insurrection act and put the military in control under continuity of government operations
It bears repeating, this is not just another election... be long popcorn.. and maybe have a few other things in the pantry in case the lights/internet go out while they clean up this mess
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17 sats \ 0 replies \ @xz 26 Oct
You make a lot of sense.
I think there should be another sign on the opposite side of the road, facing the opposite direction, exacly the same.
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0 sats \ 10 replies \ @xz 26 Oct
Sounds a bit OTP. Where does this risk come from? Does it suggest that astroturfed antifa-like gangs might start whining because they were outvoted by the popular vote?
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100 sats \ 9 replies \ @justin_shocknet 26 Oct
Imagine 10's of thousands of MS13 adjacent sleeper cell members being activated to simply cause a chaos that prevents a peaceful transfer of power.
It wouldn't take but a few dozen of them with .50 cal guns you can buy at most gun shops to shoot up electrical substations and send much of the country into a humanitarian disaster.
Add in dirty bombs
Suicide drones.
Cyber attacks on water supplies
Imagine a "leave the world behind" scenario. Great movie btw.
Hostage situation. Military is the only way.
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0 sats \ 3 replies \ @xz 26 Oct
I see your point.
But the Harvard take seems prejudice ( I didn't read the NYT) but as Matt Taibii says there: We can't just let voters choose? The idea that this will happen without astroturfing is the point.
To cause chaos, to prevent a peaceful transfer of power, implies that it would be astroturfed like the BLM campaign, it sows dischord, mostly everyone is disenfranchized through an engineered crisis.
Policy does not change on day one. There might be security pressures if sweeping changes in policy are enacted. It would be naive for any group to think that a change in leadership is not needed right now.
PS. I dig Julia Roberts, thx for the recommend.
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0 sats \ 2 replies \ @justin_shocknet 26 Oct
Depends how we define astroturf, if we simply say orchestrated then yes you're right it absolutely will be orchestrated. You and I might realize this, but that makes us the fringe 1-3% and not who the article is intended for.
I clarify to say orchestrated because of the need to price in a 5th gen warfare scenario. Things could get actually messy simply because the enemy gets a vote. That would count as orchestrated still imo, but not quite as controlled as astroturf.
We're already in Thucydides trap, the threat of policy change creates security pressures which justify the policy change which force the security pressures.
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @xz 26 Oct
Yes, I meant orchestrated. I could not think of a better word, and I suppose this has importance. Just as some might say 9-11 was orchestrated, the consequences of what is deemed a questionable and implausible narrative in the rear-view mirror, and ultimately filed under conspiritorial, also has consequences in the long run. Usually, a censerous environment and an emperor with no clothing.
That's a good point. Thing is, I think this can work in both ways. I.e, the threat of no change brings it's own slower, inevitable ensured demise. Isn't change the only constant? I do like the Greek tales and the wisdom derived. According to the trap, who fears who? I'm sure that equally, power interests are astute at playing on both sides of the field. I guess that makes things dangerous, but in a sense, nothing new neither.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @justin_shocknet 26 Oct
Bingo, I think a lot of people reject conspiratorial views on what happens today because they don't know their history
How many times does the world changed drastically in a lifetime? How well telegraphed are those things?
This election feels like it's the catalyst for a Cuba-JFK / 1971 - Watergate / 9.11- GFC / Pandemic scale "weeks when decades happen" series of events
And just like those events it wont be random
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0 sats \ 4 replies \ @random_ 26 Oct
Do you have a repo of these links?
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0 sats \ 3 replies \ @justin_shocknet 26 Oct
Just my spergy brain
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17 sats \ 1 reply \ @random_ 26 Oct
#741223
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @justin_shocknet 26 Oct
Yep, the border narrative definitely resembles past conditioning operations, just like the years of pandemic preparedness concerns
If there's some orchestrated sleeper cell event, it won't be totally unbelievable because they'll have years of media to say we told you so
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17 sats \ 0 replies \ @random_ 26 Oct
Sperg on
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @sangekrypto 26 Oct
Will there be a power struggle? so the military also took action.
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65 sats \ 0 replies \ @rebel_nomad 26 Oct
This is why I'm repeating this all the time: get out while its still possible!
Hell, do a longer "vacation" at least, right now could be the best timing ever...
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60 sats \ 0 replies \ @Bell_curve 26 Oct
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2024/10/23/cold-civil-war-cultural-secession/
Matt references this op-ed in his essay
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43 sats \ 1 reply \ @OriginalSize 27 Oct
The greatest freedom is in the mind. It's a mistake to imprison yourself by worrying about this worldly stuff too much. Can you go to a park, have coffee, make art and get your groove on? Can your enjoyment route around idiocy?
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21 sats \ 0 replies \ @siggy47 OP 27 Oct
That's the goal, if we can remain inconspicuous.
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43 sats \ 1 reply \ @sangekrypto 26 Oct
What really happened? why is it so scary?
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @random_ 26 Oct
https://www.vox.com/23274469/democrats-extremist-republicans-mastriano-cox-bailey
Something to think about.
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21 sats \ 1 reply \ @grayruby 26 Oct
The Democrat establishment and their proxies seem particularly on tilt lately.
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40 sats \ 0 replies \ @random_ 26 Oct
https://www.vox.com/23274469/democrats-extremist-republicans-mastriano-cox-bailey
Something to think about.
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