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0 sats \ 39 replies \ @DesertDave OP 24 Oct \ parent \ on: Do you believe humans can have psychic abilities? spirituality
That's another point I want to make. There being a story doesn't make anything true. That is why I quoted a man at a bus stop. I respect your views. It's just a different journey than mine. To me science as an art is beautiful. Science as a religion is dangerous.
That is why I quoted a man at a bus stop.
Whose story is unverifiable and thus can't be taken as true.
Science as a religion is dangerous
So far denying science has caused and causes more suffering than the opposite. That's specially true when politicians deny economic science. I can speak from experience on that.
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Trust the science right? How about covid "science"? I agree that pure real science is awesome. But I don't see it out there much. I see studies that are bought and paid for.
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I see studies that are bought and paid for.
Science haves all the tools needed to check itself. In that case, it's a check for consistency based in game theory, where a simple check on incentives immediately lead to doubt whatever affirmation have been made. Resistance to peer-review is a usual confirmation of said doubts.
The strongest point is that, paid or not, science assumes a study can be simply wrong, which is even more usual than paid-for biased studies. At no point science claim that if you see a study you must assume it true. It actually claims the exact opposite: don't trust, verify.
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Is it really all that simple to check for incentives?
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Specially when money is involved, yes.
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Science is used to manipulate the masses. Real truth must come from within.
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As long as it keeps manipulating cars, computers and airplanes into keeping working, be my guest.
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A functioning machine has nothing to do with truth. You think a self driving car will ever be better than a skilled intuitive human operating a vehicle? Assuming Elon ever actually makes it happen.
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A functioning machine has nothing to do with truth
You lost me there. Or did you meant something else?
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I don't know. I am always lost. Maybe I am not sure what you were saying to begin with.
Again..I love the idea of pure science. Good luck showing me an example.
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Of what?
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Pure science. It's all a story. You read a paper. And trust someone else. You said yourself, look at the incentives. But you and I can't agree on what the incentives of Elon would be. It's not simple the way you described.
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Pure science.
An example of pure science? You are using one right now at your fingertips.
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Technology is cool. Doesn't mean it's pure. The people who made this phone would like me to stay glued to it as many hours as possible. Suck all my life force.
Whose story is unverifiable and thus can't be taken as true.
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I love science. But it's not all there is in my view.
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Science do not claims otherwise.
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But this all started with you telling me tuning extra senses is a waste of energy right?
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tuning extra senses is a waste of energy right?
No, I meant that the method ("psychism") to tune extra senses is debased, and that science allows for exactly that, but with actual results.
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Words are just words. You said you believe in intuition. You just call it something "scientific"
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Because it is.
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It is what? You realize that humans made up words right?
I have plenty of results. Are you denying my own personal experience again?
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I'm not, and never did.
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I appreciate that then. I misread your statements I suppose...
My awakening came through dying and dying and dying again and again.. I feel lucky that I wasn't raised with any religion. It has allowed me to believe in myself, the I am, of the collective. I am only looking to empower others. Not everyone wants that..most people want to give up their authority to others..and it is much safer.. so I understand. I did it for many years.
We could make an epic podcast
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That would be interesting
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