I think it may be to late for Nostr \ stacker news ~tech

420 sats \ 31 comments \ @timapple 16h tech

I've been thinking about it, and I feel it may be a bit late for Nostr. I think activity pub has gathered most of the momentum and will come out on top in the future. What do you all think?

Note: I love Nostr, but I don't think it has the acceptance nor will it.

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641 sats \ 5 replies \ @hodlpleb 15h

what is activity pub?

11 sats \ 0 replies \ @rheedi0 11h

this is my favorite comment on the internet today

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @timapple OP 5h

Activity pub is what things like Mastodon are based on, and many other services

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Jon_Hodl 6h

Was wondering the same thing.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @nerd2ninja 10h

No seriously, what is activity pub?

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Undisciplined 13h

also my question

175 sats \ 1 reply \ @k00b 16h

It's never too late for something better.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @timapple OP 16h

Very true of course. Was just a feeling I was going with today.

11 sats \ 2 replies \ @ek 15h

ActivityPub has the problem of your identity being tied to a server unlike on nostr. See this for more arguments.

33 sats \ 1 reply \ @eroc1990 14h

I don't see that as a bad thing, necessarily. Sometimes you want centralized moderation. I have self-sovereignty on my own data by running my own Mastodon instance, but I can still use the greater network.

I do love Nostr's complete portability but to say one is better than the other, in my opinion, would be doing a disservice to the one being put down.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @leaf 11h

There isnt any reason the two cannot be interoperable with stuff like mostr. In fact, for ultimate robustness, I hope we end up with a load of different protocols bridged together

10 sats \ 2 replies \ @BTCLNAT 15h

I have been educated in Nostr and it has everything to do with decentralization and censorship resistance. Also as a protocol it is strong. But every option is valuable and everyone chooses.

But recently I heard about Tox? According to what I have searched it has P2P Chat features, like a solution to Skype. Is it FOS? Only has a Chat function? What do you think?

Nostr has it all

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @doubleplusgood23 3h

I haven't heard about Tox in a hot minute. It's dead as far as I know.

If you're looking for secure chat Signal is pretty mistake proof - this furry did some recent write ups on what he felt makes a good messaging app. https://soatok.blog/2024/07/31/what-does-it-mean-to-be-a-signal-competitor/

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Solomonsatoshi 11h

Tox is excellent for private and secure communication. Yes its open source and there are several versions of it available.

1 sat \ 2 replies \ @grayruby 15h

Nah. Nostr will win.

20 sats \ 1 reply \ @eroc1990 14h

Giving off this energy rn haha

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @grayruby 14h

We must be in it to win it.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @doubleplusgood23 3h

I think it's too early to tell. What I will say is people talk about other stuff besides the fediverse on the fediverse, I can't say the same for Nostr. It's mostly super high noise: AI spam, boomer tier memes, obvious scams, and accounts with posts like "I just set up Nostr" and zero other activity.

I also think it's interesting that people here don't know what ActivityPub is. It suggests to me a lotta people haven't done the bare minimum research on alternative social media but are still posting hot takes about it.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @mbrochh1 4h

What? Nostr is exploding with activity and development progress, it's almost absurd.

At this point, my official stance is "if you aren't on Nostr, you aren't a Bitcoiner".

I've never heard about Activity Pub.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @janetyellen 5h

monkeypoxstr

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Malachi17T 10h

The idea of any social network of known people that is publicly available may be undoable.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Taft 11h

There's always room for improvement, no matter how late it may seem.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @justanumber 13h

Maybe when everyone has to full-on kyc for the mainstream sm platforms ppl might wake up to the freedom of Nostr

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @bartoli 13h

Who said nostr was supposed to be used only for social networks?

0 sats \ 5 replies \ @jasonb 15h

I’ve not heard of activity pub. Given that, I’m already skeptical that it has more momentum than nostr, but maybe I’m out of the loop. Is there anything it does better?

21 sats \ 4 replies \ @timapple OP 15h

Activity pub is what is behind Mastodon and many other services.

21 sats \ 1 reply \ @konstantin21 12h

mastodon allows censorship on every server at the discretion of the owner and no moving your social graph. its kind of the opposite of nostr. would not consider them competitors.

10 sats \ 0 replies \ @timapple OP 12h

Nostr is just as easily censored at the relay. Just like Mastodon you can host your own which is the one true independence if you had to go that far.

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @jasonb 15h

Ah, thanks. I made a nostr client that filters out Bitcoin and nostr-related content and the vast bulk of what is left is cross-posting from mastodon, so I’m tempted to believe you now. Haha However, is the protocol behind it as censorship resistant as nostr? I wonder if all those folks cross-posting will just become nostr only posters if something dirty happens with activity pub.

21 sats \ 0 replies \ @ek 15h

It’s not as censorship-resistant since your identity is tied to a server.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Satosora 16h

There can always be two. People will find that nostr is better at some things. And it all comes back to how well it updates.