I am just saying that all Ark users have to be online to use Ark without covenants and that with covenants, end users could be offline most of the time.

Doesn't mean it won't be successful without it, just that I think it would be a lot nicer with it.

Thanks a lot for sharing some context! Much useful and needed as this is all new to me. 

Are you saying that covenants need to be implemented in Bitcoin Core to guarantee VTXO and Ark success?

supratic

"Another important thing to note is that the protocol implementation is not fully trustless as designed, yet. Currently, the VTXO tree is signed only by the server while it should be signed also by the users and the server misses APIs to collect such signatures. We're working on it as we speak on these aspects to ensure a robust and feature-complete implementation."

So the covenant less design just requires all users to be online for any state changes is all.

https://arkdev.info/blog/ark-release-v0.2/

Don't mind me just adding some context behind why we have Ark without covenants lol.

lightning

@2ndBTC | Bitcoin’s blockchain has never seen Ark transactions. Until now.

>"Another important thing to note is that the protocol implementation is not fully trustless as designed, yet. Currently, the VTXO tree is signed only by the server while it should be signed also by the users and the server misses APIs to collect such signatures. We're working on it as we speak on these aspects to ensure a robust and feature-complete implementation."

So the covenant less design just requires all users to be online for any state changes is all.

source btw: https://arkdev.info/blog/ark-release-v0.2/

Don't mind me just adding some context behind why we have Ark without covenants lol.