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France Extends Detention Of Telegram CEO Pavel Durov For "Questioning"www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/france-extends-detention-telegram-ceo-pavel-durov-questioning
985 sats \ 25 comments \ @siggy47 26 Aug news
I saw Lyn Alden described this arrest as an emergency. It certainly is. What's going on right now, with Samourai and now this, seem related although they probably aren't.
The list of charges include fraud, drug trafficking, organized crime, terrorism promotion and cyber-bullying on the popular encrypted messaging platform. "It is absurd to claim that a platform or its owner are responsible for abuse of that platform," the company has said in a fresh statement.
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64 sats \ 1 reply \ @BTCLNAT 27 Aug
As I see the issue regarding Durov's arrest, it goes beyond the alleged charges he is accused of. In reality it is a way to intimidate the community that seeks to free itself from censorship. There are important points such as the one that pursues the creator of a social network, which also serves as a basis for the development of many people far from centralized government and financial systems. To those who do not want the real freedom of others, fear the true development of those who are not of their class
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21 sats \ 0 replies \ @siggy47 OP 27 Aug
That appears to be exactly what's going on.
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64 sats \ 0 replies \ @SatsMate 27 Aug
What a slippery slope to say platform creators are just as guilty as the criminals that use the platform. We are going through the dark and hard times as we speak... Is there a petition or something we can sign to support his release?
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108 sats \ 1 reply \ @JesseJames 26 Aug
"...drug trafficking, organized crime, terrorism promotion..." Let's lock-up the FED, I'm pretty sure all that stuff was fueled by USD notes that they promote and fail to enforce its use...lol
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52 sats \ 0 replies \ @siggy47 OP 26 Aug
They could bring a RICO conspiracy case against all the central banks!
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97 sats \ 1 reply \ @freetx 26 Aug
I wonder why the CEO of the much touted Signal isn't arrested? hmmm.....
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52 sats \ 0 replies \ @02bcd3eeb0 27 Aug
Probably because you can't get access to all the messages by arresting the signal CEO, unlike with telegram.
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97 sats \ 5 replies \ @grayruby 26 Aug
This is scary. I was going to make a post about the "tech freedom stack" for the SN hivemind to think through and maybe we can get some of the more tech/privacy inclined folks to help the dummies (me) amongst the crowd with best practices.
Unless you want to do the post. It could tie into bitcoin beginners and you are deeper down the rabbit hold on privacy stuff than me.
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81 sats \ 4 replies \ @siggy47 OP 26 Aug
That's a great idea. No, I'm not qualified either, but you should do the post. We have some really smart people on SN when it comes to this. They keep a low profile because they ARE smart. Not like us dummies. I discovered them when I posted about graphene OS last year.
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74 sats \ 3 replies \ @grayruby 26 Aug
Ok I will do the post and let's see if we can get some of the smarties out of the woodwork to help the dummies out and at least give us a chance against digital tyranny.
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71 sats \ 2 replies \ @siggy47 OP 26 Aug
I read that at first as "digital tranny." I had no idea where you were going with it.
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64 sats \ 0 replies \ @grayruby 26 Aug
Haha that sort of thing happens to me all the time.
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53 sats \ 0 replies \ @Bell_curve 26 Aug
Digital trannies are tyrants.
Tranny is tyranny
It’s your new nickname. Not sure which one is you
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64 sats \ 0 replies \ @Satosora 26 Aug
This is reminding me of the Samourai thing, and how it took us all by surprise.
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63 sats \ 5 replies \ @Bell_curve 26 Aug
drug trafficking, organized crime, terrorism promotion and cyber-bullying
If he is guilty of cyber bullying, then the only fair punishment is death by guillotine
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21 sats \ 1 reply \ @nichro 26 Aug
Back in my day, cyber bullying just meant playing Diablo 2
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20 sats \ 0 replies \ @Bell_curve 26 Aug
League of Legends! Different game lol
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0 sats \ 2 replies \ @oliverweiss 26 Aug
"It is absurd to claim that a platform or its owner are responsible for abuse of that platform," the company has said in a fresh statement.
How do you read this?
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @Bell_curve 27 Aug
Stacker News has a chat group on telegram
Does the owner bear any responsibility for what goes on in that private chat group?
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @oliverweiss 27 Aug
Hypothetical scenario: you let your neighbor’s kids to use your garage for their “reading club”, whatever, you don’t use the garage, so why not. However, the kids will be raping their schoolmate there.
Do you bear any responsibility for what goes on in that private group?
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43 sats \ 4 replies \ @oliverweiss 26 Aug
It is absurd to claim that a platform or its owner are responsible for abuse of that platform
Do I get it right that they do admit that telegram was abused and so that there might be a grain of truth in the charges? Secondly, if a platform is being abused and, say, a child porn is found or propagated, who should be held accountable and responsible?
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59 sats \ 1 reply \ @siggy47 OP 26 Aug
No doubt horrible things get posted on the internet, like this getting posted on youtube:
https://www.thewrap.com/isis-purports-to-behead-american-journalist-in-graphic-video/
No one from google was prosecuted.
I don't know the answer to your question, beyond thinking those who created and posted the illegal material should be held responsible.
Your question was a hypothetical. The google youtube incident has happened repeatedly.
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43 sats \ 0 replies \ @oliverweiss 27 Aug
those who created and posted the illegal material should be held responsible
Definitely, those should be held responsible!
The google youtube incident has happened repeatedly.
Indeed, the lawmakers, govts, once they come with some rules, should apply them equally.
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @Bell_curve 27 Aug
Defending regime censorship again, no surprise
Defender of killers from Rwanda
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @oliverweiss 27 Aug
Defending regime censorship again, no surprise
🥱🥱🥱
Defender of killers from Rwanda
Where does this come from?
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