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31 sats \ 21 replies \ @siggy47 19 Aug \ parent \ on: SN release: Blink sending wallet, and fixes for LNC, profiles, invoice retries meta
It would be great if someone on SN would build a basic, secure, NWC connect wallet, like @supertestnet is doing. But, will NWC always require a fedimint/cashu type custodial mint?
You should be able to run NWC on your node! Or you can use alby hub or something like that. It’s totally independent of ecash.
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Yes, I was talking to @ek about the problem I was having on Umbrel, using Oak node app, because Umbrel doesn't have https. I am starting a Start9 node, so I should be able to connect it there. I know there are a lot of Umbrel users, so I wonder if there is a workaround?
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I looked into the source code of Oak Node and I see how they appear to only generate a secret but I didn't really understand why or how that secret is supposed to get used.
I think we need to get a hold of someone from Oak Node to understand how they implemented NWC. I found out that ok300 is the Github account and they have a forum and ticket system at oak-node.net but I didn't create a ticket since I don't run it and thus don't feel like I have enough information.
Do you mind creating one in which you describe your problem in detail? They have anonymous login.
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Sure. I'll do that. In the meantime, I used the Alby Hub this morning and it was simple. They have a dedicated NWC app. For people running their own nodes, this is the much simpler way to go. Do you anticipate setting up NWC send and receive?
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Yeah, I am going to use Alby Hub to test my PR for NWC receive today. It already works, just need to add some checks so permissions to spend from your wallet don't accidentally land on the server.
It might also only work with Alby Hub since they are the only ones that allow to set permissions per connection. For example, cashu.me only allows a single connection and you can't set permissions. That's going to be annoying but we really want to keep spending permission away from the server. We'll have to bother the wallets to support multiple connections and restrictions if they don't yet.
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Yeah. That's important. It would kind of defeat the whole purpose 😀
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Oh yeah, right, that probably wouldn't be considered non-custodial, haha
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I talked to another founder whose lawyers said it is non-custodial - legally at least. I think because you can unilaterally revoke their ability to spend on your behalf, and it's permissions to spend but you don't hold the money. Still, it's a honeypot. It's like storing credit card info.
NWC does not require a custodian. I opted for using custodians in Bankify because it's useful in some of my experiments and workshops to display a basic wallet interface that "just works" right away, with send and receive already enabled from the get-go, and an easy API to hook it up to some of my other apps (and third party apps like Stacker News). Ecash mints are probably the best available solution right now for that specific problem. But enabling NWC for more self custodial wallets is on my to-do list.