Maybe this was necessary to stop the insanity. I hope she's okay.
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323 sats \ 3 replies \ @Undisciplined 1 Aug 2024
There were no women in the original Olympics, either. We're just getting back to basics.
Seriously, though, how grotesque is it that combat sports are where they decided to allow this? We're lucky no one's been killed yet.
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220 sats \ 0 replies \ @kepford 1 Aug 2024
A few years ago I heard a feminist say that men weren't satisfied with winning everything, some had to become women so they could win those prizes as well.
This cannot continue. It will implode on itself. But the damage is done.
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21 sats \ 0 replies \ @Bell_curve 1 Aug 2024
Grotesque is the word of the day
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Natalia 1 Aug 2024
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151 sats \ 1 reply \ @SimpleStacker 1 Aug 2024
I'm sorry, I am not sure what the problem here is. After all, I am not a biologist
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Bell_curve 7 Aug 2024
you must be auditioning for a Supreme Court confimation hearing
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196 sats \ 6 replies \ @TomK 1 Aug 2024
the woke clown world is becoming increasingly absurd and sometimes even life-threatening. it all has to stop
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90 sats \ 3 replies \ @siggy47 OP 1 Aug 2024
None of the MSM media is covering the story yet. How about Europe?
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119 sats \ 0 replies \ @TomK 1 Aug 2024
There were some articles about it.but they don't put it into a big scheme to explain the cultural-political background. it is played down as if this was an individual case that now has to be clarified before the ordinary olympic courts. they are again caught up in technocratism to avoid the real debate
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90 sats \ 0 replies \ @Bell_curve 1 Aug 2024
https://www.reuters.com/sports/olympics/boxing-algerian-khelif-advances-after-italys-carini-abandons-fight-after-46-2024-08-01/
Pathetic headline and article
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43 sats \ 0 replies \ @TNStacker 1 Aug 2024
MSNBC covered it.
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21 sats \ 0 replies \ @JesseJames 2 Aug 2024
It wont stop. But you can change your reaction to it. Just ignore the fools, you will feel better.... YMMV
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Satosora 2 Aug 2024
Its bad.
And the whole paris olympics condones this message.
Look at their opening ceremony!
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108 sats \ 1 reply \ @Bell_curve 1 Aug 2024
South Park meme
https://m.stacker.news/42869
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21 sats \ 0 replies \ @WeAreAllSatoshi 1 Aug 2024
South Park and the Simpsons seem to know the future
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64 sats \ 2 replies \ @Satosora 2 Aug 2024
This just isnt right.
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21 sats \ 1 reply \ @Satosora 2 Aug 2024
Maybe they should just make a new category for trans people?
Just make it more fair?
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Bell_curve 2 Aug 2024
The carnival category
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64 sats \ 0 replies \ @ContraMundum 1 Aug 2024
A quick reminder what we’ve always heard, “don’t hit a girl.” lol. Unless she needs to be reminded of how frail they really are. The clown world has to stop
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97 sats \ 14 replies \ @itsMoro 1 Aug 2024
you dont need a gender eligibility test to know thats a biological man...😮💨
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99 sats \ 12 replies \ @siggy47 OP 1 Aug 2024
I just took a closer look at that dude. My God. He should be arrested for assault.
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901 sats \ 9 replies \ @gmd 1 Aug 2024
Important to note that, she was born female identity with female genitalia (uterus, vagina) and this is not a case of a male to female transition. She looked like a normal female as a child, and that is not a woke transitioning country. Reportedly, it was only later in her life it was discovered she had underlying XY chromosomes with a genetic disorder.
Whether she should be allowed to compete or not, I can have some empathy for someone who grew up without a penis, believing they are female their whole life, wanting to pursue their passion.
To me this is a very shitty gray area, but she should not be lumped in with the born-male athletes who later transition and beat up on women.
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120 sats \ 0 replies \ @siggy47 OP 1 Aug 2024
Thanks for providing this information. You're right. It does change the picture. The news article should have made that clear.
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99 sats \ 1 reply \ @Bell_curve 1 Aug 2024
https://www.iba.sport/news/statement-made-by-the-international-boxing-association-regarding-athletes-disqualifications-in-world-boxing-championships-2023
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21 sats \ 0 replies \ @gmd 1 Aug 2024
Too bad they can’t or won’t release what the actual tests were, since they are saying they weren’t testosterone tests.
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33 sats \ 4 replies \ @Bell_curve 1 Aug 2024
This person was previously suspended from competition for testing positive for too much testosterone
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21 sats \ 3 replies \ @gmd 1 Aug 2024
Probably from over-supplementation, which would be just cause to ban IMO.
Details are scant as to her actual medical issues, but reportedly she has Swyer syndrome, born with female genitalia and no cock, no balls. No balls means you would need exogenous testosterone administered, which seems to have gone overboard in her case, possibly for athletic advantage. These patients are quite rare but normally you would expect them to have low levels of all reproductive hormones, both estrogen and testosterone as they have faulty non-functional gonads.
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99 sats \ 2 replies \ @Bell_curve 1 Aug 2024
The International Boxing Association disqualified her. The IOC lost their minds.
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42 sats \ 1 reply \ @gmd 1 Aug 2024
Agree it doesn’t seem right if she was disqualified from prior international competition for excessively high T levels.
But to me the discourse is just a little unfortunate and lacking nuance. People are saying she should be disqualified because she’s obviously a man. In actuality she’s genotype male but born phenotype of a female- without exogenous testosterone she would not have developed her masculine traits and would have remained phenotypically female her whole life. The real issues is she’s roided out to the gills.
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87 sats \ 0 replies \ @positronic_bot 2 Aug 2024
No. The testoserone tests just showed elevated levels of endogenous hormone. No evidence of supplementation. In many sports, the absolute level of Testosterone is enough to rule if someone is allowed to compete as a woman. The rules vary between the Int. Boxing Assoc. And the IOC. For detection of doping, other measures are used such as hormonal ratios (epitestosterone/testosterone) as well as tests revealing synthetic variants. There is no evidence of doping in this case. She would have been banned from all sports for next few years already otherwise.
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99 sats \ 0 replies \ @Natalia 2 Aug 2024
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @oliverweiss 1 Aug 2024
This is pathetic, sorry.
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99 sats \ 0 replies \ @028559d218 4 Aug 2024
#631547
See the other user's comments. This person was apparently born with a congenital birth defect... this is not the case of a 'transitioning' person.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Bell_curve 1 Aug 2024
https://www.iba.sport/news/statement-made-by-the-international-boxing-association-regarding-athletes-disqualifications-in-world-boxing-championships-2023
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86 sats \ 4 replies \ @freetx 1 Aug 2024
The truth is this: He couldn't compete against other males, so he switched genders so he could win.
This is 90% of what woke culture is.....beta-males in various forms cheating to create an advantage. Once you see things like that, things make much more sense.
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21 sats \ 0 replies \ @028559d218 4 Aug 2024
See the other user's comment. This person apparently did not 'transition'.
Instead they were born anatomically female... but with XY chromosomes. Born with a vagina, uterus etc but with other genetics. Which they only discovered later through genetic testing.
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22 sats \ 0 replies \ @Bell_curve 1 Aug 2024
Perfect description of woke culture: beta-males, cheating, unfair advantage
"Lia" Thomas was a male swimmer who switched genders so he could win.
The biological male boxers who are punching biological women truly deserve a special place in hell or Guantanomo or both
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/olympics/article-13697255/Algerian-boxer-Imane-Khelif-wins-fight-Olympics-cleared-compete-womens-event-despite-eligibility-row-Italian-opponent-abandons-bout-46-seconds.html
"She" is from Algeria... greaaaaaaat
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14 sats \ 0 replies \ @guts 1 Aug 2024
There is a good book called Woke INC, this goes beyond than just beta males.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @jp305 1 Aug 2024
I have a hard time thinking transgenders would do this to win.
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64 sats \ 7 replies \ @Silent_Hodler 1 Aug 2024
Fuck this shit! I feel really sorry for Carini. This is the fourth turning and Europe is going to hell. Time to pack bags and move somewhere else. Any suggestions? Argentine seems promising.
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21 sats \ 6 replies \ @oliverweiss 1 Aug 2024
I bet five cents you won’t move from Europe.
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0 sats \ 5 replies \ @Silent_Hodler 1 Aug 2024
I don’t know where to go yet, but I’ll move. No question about it.
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0 sats \ 4 replies \ @oliverweiss 1 Aug 2024
I can recommend Russia.
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0 sats \ 3 replies \ @Silent_Hodler 1 Aug 2024
From experience? ;-)
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0 sats \ 2 replies \ @Bell_curve 2 Aug 2024
Oliver is a communist
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @oliverweiss 3 Aug 2024
Nah
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Bell_curve 3 Aug 2024
Very convincing
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64 sats \ 0 replies \ @BlokchainB 1 Aug 2024
Sad
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164 sats \ 1 reply \ @TNStacker 1 Aug 2024
Shame on us for allowing this bullshit.
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42 sats \ 0 replies \ @Satosora 2 Aug 2024
Its really shameful.
The world has really degressed!
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43 sats \ 0 replies \ @Bell_curve 2 Aug 2024
Caitlyn Jenner… “go back to old standards, I looked at East German women in the 70’s and I said are they playing for the right team? Then they started DNA testing. If you are XX you’re with the women. XY you’re with the men”
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86 sats \ 4 replies \ @0xbitcoiner 1 Aug 2024
They should create a new category other than man and woman. Or insert these people according to their hormone levels, just thinking out loud.
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74 sats \ 2 replies \ @siggy47 OP 1 Aug 2024
A new category.
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65 sats \ 1 reply \ @Bell_curve 1 Aug 2024
A new category called Freaks and Carnivals
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21 sats \ 0 replies \ @jp305 1 Aug 2024
Ancient Greece would totally approve
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Coinsreporter 1 Aug 2024
A new category called Woke.
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43 sats \ 0 replies \ @DEADBEEF 1 Aug 2024
This is nuts. Why would anyone think this was a good idea?
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43 sats \ 0 replies \ @Enemy_of_the_state 1 Aug 2024
https://m.stacker.news/42891
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43 sats \ 0 replies \ @Akg10s33 1 Aug 2024
Personally, combat or contact fights as they call them... I would not consider them a sport... that is a grotesque and inhuman savagery... that also leads young people of 15, 16 or 17 years old to fight and they are sold that theory that it is a sport and it is good... and in some of those fights they receive blows to the head and begin to suffer headaches or insomnia and drive them to madness... and not satisfied with that, as they complain about the pain, they drug them to make them faster and take away the pain... and make them addicted!! That unfortunately is not a sport.
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43 sats \ 0 replies \ @kepford 1 Aug 2024
If you had told most of us alive 30 years ago this would be happening we would not have believed it. People being afraid to say something about a man competing in women's sports. Beating them up even. It would have been to absurd.
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43 sats \ 0 replies \ @Coinsreporter 1 Aug 2024
This ain't sports anymore. If you can't be man, just be a woman and beat them.
If a female switched to a male, can it (can't say he or she) beat men in a boxing bout. And if it can beat after switching, they could surey beat them without switching. What's going on with the world? This is the woke that we talk about, I'm clearly and openly against it.
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43 sats \ 0 replies \ @grayruby 1 Aug 2024
Absolutely ridiculous.
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321 sats \ 18 replies \ @positronic_bot 2 Aug 2024
Don't let facts get in the way.... She was born female with a genetic disorder. Like Caster Semenya.
She was previously banned from the boxing association for excessice endogenous testosterone levels. The IOC rules are different. She was allowed to compete.
The italian got hit hard in a boxing match. Big fucking hoopla!!
Think the rules don't make sense? That's a different debate. But under current rules, she, emphasis on she, deserves to be allowed to compete.
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21 sats \ 16 replies \ @siggy47 OP 2 Aug 2024
When I posted this the article had misrepresented the facts to some extent. Clearly everyone has an agenda here on both sides. However, to allow this person to compete as a woman ignores reality. There is an obvious and unfair advantage that they are seeking to capitalize on.
In 1968 would it have been fair for George Foreman to fight as a featherweight, because he felt discriminated against because of his height and weight? Maybe he always felt like a featherweight?
It violates all sense of sport and fair play.
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43 sats \ 15 replies \ @positronic_bot 2 Aug 2024
I understand the frustration. Interestingly, the European media hasn't tried to fit it into the culture or gender wars that seem to run amok in the US.
At a simple level, for all of human history, this woman would have been considered a woman due to having female sexual organs. It's only since the discovery of genetics and metabolomics that we have finer understanding of borderline phenotypes.
Personnally, I think gender doesn't exist and everyone should compete against everyone (keep age and weight categories).
But if you believe gender is a binary thing, then technically she is a woman.
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21 sats \ 9 replies \ @siggy47 OP 2 Aug 2024
I see your point. I do think gender is a binary thing, but you're right that she would have been considered female through most of history.
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43 sats \ 8 replies \ @Bell_curve 2 Aug 2024
I’m not so sure.
Through most of history people would have used the eye test and common sense and ostracized her as a circus freak
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0 sats \ 7 replies \ @positronic_bot 3 Aug 2024
In the context of fight sports or actual combat, she would have been considered a goddess of war for her ability to crush skulls.
And yes, I don't think gender as a category exists. It's a distribution with two peaks along a spectrum. I am a biologist. I don't care about your insecurities.
By the way, if you say she should not compete because it's unfair. Then you are saying we should do genetic testing on all previous medallists and record holders across all sports to see if they were genetically advantaged and stripped of their medals and records. For fairness. That's silly.
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0 sats \ 3 replies \ @Bell_curve 7 Aug 2024
Watch the video and tell yourself that gender as a category exists
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0 sats \ 2 replies \ @positronic_bot 8 Aug 2024
And what does have that to do with anything?
I know you're confused about all this, but please try to focus on the topic at hand.
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0 sats \ 2 replies \ @Bell_curve 3 Aug 2024
You are ignoring 'her' XY chromosome
"She" is genetically advantaged vs normal women
If you think gender as a category shouldn't exist, this person should box vs men
Let's put her in actual combat! No one will object.
There is no world where she is considered a goddess of anything.
The IBA already disqualified her. IOC decided to overrule them for clown world reasons.
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @positronic_bot 8 Aug 2024
No such thing as a XY chromosome. But don't let that get in the way of spreaing your confused ideology.
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16 sats \ 4 replies \ @Bell_curve 2 Aug 2024
You don’t actually believe gender does not exist.
You are repeating a transgender talking point
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21 sats \ 0 replies \ @riberet19 3 Aug 2024
The X and Y chromosomes exist for a reason, denying biology only sets us back as a species and catapult all the previous studies carried out by people who took science seriously.
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21 sats \ 2 replies \ @siggy47 OP 2 Aug 2024
Me? No. I think there are two genders. I think the point he was making was that science couldn't prove the boxer was male until recently. You also made a good point about common sense. Circus freak went a little too far, though, in my opinion. The person was apparently born that way. The simple fact is that having the person compete as a woman violates the whole idea of fair competition.
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43 sats \ 1 reply \ @Bell_curve 2 Aug 2024
Not you. The other guy or person who doesn’t believe in gender
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21 sats \ 0 replies \ @siggy47 OP 2 Aug 2024
Oh. I see. Okay, then circus freak is fine😀jk
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Bell_curve 2 Aug 2024
IOC has no rules. They improvise. Judicial activism
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Satoshi__Nakamoto 1 Aug 2024
What the heck hahaha this is
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @kepford 1 Aug 2024
I wonder what people from non-western countries think about this stuff. I think I can guess though.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @fm 1 Aug 2024
absurd..
just like gays for Palestine..
what a fucking meme
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @oliverweiss 1 Aug 2024
- Shitstorm here as expected.
- Quite positively surprised by Algeria.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @77edb424fc 1 Aug 2024 outlawed
stackers have outlawed this. turn on wild west mode in your /settings to see outlawed content.
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